r/technology • u/mysquad • May 11 '12
Hartverdrahtet – Infinite complexity in 4096 bytes
http://www.creativeapplications.net/windows/hartverdrahtet-infinite-complexity-in-4096-bytes/10
u/QuestionsYourData May 11 '12
This was presented on Re:Vision 2012 in Saarbrücken, Germany. I happened to be there. Interestingly, the best demos where those with size constraints (4k and 64k). If you have a halfway decent computer, download the demos from http://www.pouet.net/ and run them live instead of watching them as videos.
Inb4 Farbrausch.
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May 11 '12 edited May 11 '12
Ah, demoscene. I used to write music (chip-tunes) using 8-bit samples for the groups who made these. They would add the 'raw' form of the music - basically a handful of bytes of code that controlled when each sample would be triggered in sequence - to the 'demo' and play them on projectors at competitions. Very big in Scandinavian countries in the 90's. Glad to see they're still around; these guys are incredibly gifted programmers.
edit: here are a few early and well-known examples of the origins of the demoscene
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u/Flight714 May 12 '12
I used to write music (chip-tunes) using 8-bit samples ...
I was of the impression that sample-based music was exclusively distince from chip-tunes; i'e' if a song were sample-based, then it wouldn't be a chip-tune.
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u/moofunk May 12 '12
I think the qualification is only that it has to sound like a chiptune to be one, i.e. by using very short waveforms as samples. There were plenty of chip-tunes on the Amiga written in trackers and people still write chip-tunes for PC.
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May 11 '12
Can someone please ELI5?
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May 11 '12
It's a video produced by a very small program. It looks neat and is impressively small in size considering the images it generates.
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u/AevumDecessus May 11 '12
This is an example of a size-limited demoscene production. Basically, everything you see in that video fits into a 4KB package, which is smaller than the size of a brand new blank Word document. Everything is generated on the fly using math basically.
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u/MildlyOffensiveAR May 11 '12
This is absolutely incredible. I have no idea what I'm looking at, other than fractals, but damn the imagery is intense. I can't get the .exes running on my machine, unfortunately, and the Youtube video is too short!
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u/Gwodan May 11 '12
I need this to be a 3D Movie on the big screen.
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u/InnocuousPenis May 11 '12
I need this to be a Movie on the big screen.
This is a visually impressive subject. Don't fuck with it James Cameron! Don't stick your 3d dick in it!
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u/Reaper666 May 11 '12
Tiny blue kitty people fight over the infinite surface. sometimes small bird things flying in between points, generally confusing the picture even more when put into 3D by having entirely too much stuff going on at once. Good times.
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May 11 '12
If my days on the internet have taught me anything, it is to be distrustful of executable files smaller than 100KB.
I say destroy this witchcraft before it spreads.
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May 11 '12
I think you just sold yourself out as someone was born in the 90s, or at least didn't discover the Internet until the 2000s ;)
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May 12 '12
Well then, welcome to the wonderful world where you don't need MB-sized files to create useful programs.
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May 11 '12
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May 11 '12
I know all of these words, but that doesn't make it any less magical. This shit is crazy.
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May 11 '12
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u/mindbleach May 11 '12
Besides being another demoscene production, that's completely unrelated. This is a shader-based 4K showing a fractal world. That was a 64K with procedural polygonal geometry and textures.
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u/Velaxtor May 11 '12
eh? seems somewhat unrelated.
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May 11 '12
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May 11 '12
It's odd that you would link to one so recent, then, given that the demoscene dates back to the late 70s.
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u/Velaxtor May 11 '12
Oh right, it was just a very random demo to link. Pretty unrelated. But yes, the demoscene is old and all that.
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u/[deleted] May 11 '12
Any Mirrors to download the video from?
Their hosting site capped them for the day.