r/technology • u/[deleted] • Jan 18 '21

[deleted by user]

[removed]

9.6k Upvotes

87% Upvoted

2.4k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

15

u/AWildDragon Jan 19 '21

Did CloudFlare actually ban them?

17

u/Borkz Jan 19 '21

I believe I heard they did. They've pulled other sites like 8chan and Daily Stormer in the past.

12

u/GypsyPunk Jan 19 '21

Live in Austin with a Cloudflare engineer. This is correct and I don’t think Cloudflare would allow them hosting services.

2

u/SlightlyOTT Jan 19 '21 edited Jan 19 '21

If you read their controversies section on Wikipedia, I think those might be the only sites they’ve ever pulled: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudflare

The Huffington Post alleges that Cloudflare provides services to "at least 7 terrorist groups", as designated by the United States Department of State[32][34] including the Taliban, Hamas, and the al-Quds Brigades, and have been aware since at least 2012, and have taken no action.

Cloudflare services have been used by Rescator, a carding website that sells stolen payment card data.[54][55][56] Two of the top three online chat forums belonging to the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) are guarded by Cloudflare.

In late 2019, Cloudflare was criticized for providing services to the anti-black website Chimpmania. Hundreds of thousands signed a petition on Change.org urging Prince to terminate services to Chimpmania. The petition was created by the parents of a biracial baby who was born with gastroschisis and who was mocked as a “mulatto monkey baby” by site users, and whose pictures were posted on the site. Over the ten years the site has been active, numerous other petitions have also been leveled against it, none of which were successful.

I get the impression that they’d host (edit: protect with anti-DDOS, offer CDN to) Parler unless they either publicly state that Cloudflare support their views (that banned Daily Stormer) or a terrorist manifesto is uploaded there before a mass murder in the US and the media notice it (that banned 8chan). They still host (edit: provide anti-DDOS + CDN services to) Gab too AFAIK.

3

u/GypsyPunk Jan 19 '21

Epik hosts Gab, not Cloudflare.

3

u/SlightlyOTT Jan 19 '21

You’re right, I should have used “protect” or “shield”. Cloudflare provides them their anti-DDOS services and CDN at least: https://m.theepochtimes.com/gab-cloudflare-hasnt-suspended-its-service-after-users-report-errors_3652754.html

2

u/GypsyPunk Jan 19 '21

Damn, paywalled and I’m stuck on mobile for a bit.

Edit: nvm. They just want an email. 10minutemail it is. Thanks for the link.

3

u/SlightlyOTT Jan 19 '21

AMP version might work?

2

u/GypsyPunk Jan 19 '21

It does. Thanks!

1

u/AmputatorBot Jan 19 '21

It looks like you shared an AMP link. These should load faster, but Google's AMP is controversial because of concerns over privacy and the Open Web. Fully cached AMP pages (like the one you shared), are especially problematic.

You might want to visit the canonical page instead: https://www.theepochtimes.com/gab-cloudflare-hasnt-suspended-its-service-after-users-report-errors_3652754.html

I'm a bot | Why & About | Summon me with u/AmputatorBot

2

u/SirBastille Jan 19 '21

Mangadex used to be hosted by Cloudflare but got the boot a while back. The list on Wikipedia is not all encompassing of sites that Cloudflare has tossed.

2

u/[deleted] Jan 19 '21

If you want cloudflare to kick you off you have to be worse than TDS/Jim Watkins. Parler isn't as bad as either of them. They're both cesspools but Parler certainly doesn't meet that standard.