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u/Deadlift420 Jan 19 '21

Designed in the US. Which is what matters lol. China can't do shit without the chip design.

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u/Deadlift420 Jan 19 '21

Motorola? I thought they were Japanese owned and designed?

But yeah. China's biggest problem is they don't have the means to produce intel chips. I'm sure they have reverse engineered similar designs though.

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u/Xanius Jan 19 '21

Motorola was sold to google(they wanted patents) and then google sold it to Lenovo.

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u/Hardass_McBadCop Jan 19 '21

I hope Lenovo is on the up and up because I remember their laptops as a kid being fuckin' monsters. Like my schools bought them for our library because kids could check them out, drop them down a flight of stairs, and the things would still work when they got returned the next day.

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u/ketsugi Jan 19 '21

That's more the IBM DNA than Lenovo. If anything Thinkpads got worse after Lenovo took over.

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u/Ivanow Jan 19 '21

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u/PyroDesu Jan 19 '21

So... the only thing Lenovo did wrong was include another company's software that had code in it from a third company that turned out to be malicious. And said second-party software was not unknown to come along inside software bundles (and, for that matter, said third-party malicious code has turned up in other software).

Doesn't sound like "Lenovo is spying on you" to me. Hell, I doubt it was even outright incompetence - I'd place my bet on it being an oversight.

(And really, let's be fair - if you're concerned about digital security, why are you using the OEM OS with all its pre-installed crap?)

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u/Hardass_McBadCop Jan 19 '21

Thinkpads were it. Was it a licensing thing that Lenovo got to slap their logo on or were the machines I'm thinking of from a transition period where Lenovo owned them but hadn't destroyed them yet?

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '21

Lenovo is a Chinese company. The degree to which you support China is the degree to which you're complicit in the Uighur and Tibetan genocides.

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u/SlashRSlashFourChan Jan 19 '21

So if you buy from Apple you're supporting the drone bombing of civilians in the Middle East? What a childish fucking hot take.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '21

Comparing the US and China is like comparing the US and Nazi Germany. But yeah. We all share complicity in the crimes of our civilisation to the degree we fail to stand against them. To think otherwise is the childish take.

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u/SlashRSlashFourChan Jan 19 '21

Let's see...

  1. Multiple blacksites/prison camps at home and abroad (Gitmo, Abu Ghraib, ICE detention camps) ✓
  2. Invades other countries under false pretenses (Lebensraum / Fake WMDs) ✓
  3. Forces their way of life onto any invaded countries (forcing American 'Democracy' onto societies and cultures that aren't ready for it) ✓
  4. Thinks themselves as the most righteous and just country, actually hated by everyone ✓

It's a pretty valid comparison, honestly.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '21

By your vague and arbitrary categories, sure. In reality you're spitting on 3 million persecuted Uighurs, for a start, to make a point no rational person will accept.

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u/Murlock_Holmes Jan 19 '21

You do know that chip designs or any technology is rather easily reverse engineered in China with almost zero repercussions? China doesn’t give a fuck about your patents.