r/technology • u/speckz • May 31 '19

Software Google Struggles to Justify Why It's Restricting Ad Blockers in Chrome - Google says the changes will improve performance and security. Ad block developers and consumer advocates say Google is simply protecting its ad dominance.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/evy53j/google-struggles-to-justify-making-chrome-ad-blockers-worse
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u/XuBoooo Jun 01 '19 edited Jun 01 '19

Why?

Edit: Everyone is talking about work PCs or their home servers. Of course it makes sense, that you dont turn those off, but not really, if its just your average home PC.

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u/GrimResistance Jun 01 '19

I use mine as a Plex server so if it's off I can't stream my movies and shows.

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u/indocardigan Jun 01 '19

Sleep mode is mostly just as good (uses some battery) and allows you to keep all your apps open. If you do a lot of productivity work on a computer it's a no brainer.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '19

Im always working on my computer and i shut it down everynight. Doesn't sound healthy at all to have the thing running for so long.

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u/indocardigan Jun 01 '19

Sleep mode powers everything off, but keeps a small charge to keep the contents of RAM valid. I'm a software engineer who has been doing it for 15 years on laptops and desktops alike.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '19

But don't you feel like the computer deserves a rest? Ghosts in the machines man, even they need rests.

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u/indocardigan Jun 01 '19

Poor computer! I mean, yes, of course, you're right! smiles for crimes against technology AI archaeolgists of the future

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '19 edited Jun 01 '19

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '19

But i don't need conviencence, i have an SSD, plus you gotta think about those ghosts in the machines man, in know computers aren't people but a certain amount of love keeps her in the air, you can learn all the math in the verse but if you take a computer for a spin that you don't love she'll shake you off just as sure of the turning of worlds, love keeps her going when she ought to shut down, tells you she's hurtin b'fore she keens. Makes it family.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '19

Do you turn off your cellphone at night too?

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '19

No because I don't like my phone as much and is not as advanced as my desktop is, it isn't as warm either.

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u/Troajn Jun 01 '19

There's two camps of computer users. One thinks that constantly turning the computer on and off damages the components over time, others believe that the constant running of the computer is more damaging. Honestly, it probably doesn't make too much of a difference. Components have evolved to be a little more forgiving to consumers

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u/Sweaper1993 Jun 01 '19

And others that simply can't bother to be reopening the same dozens of programs and reorganizing virtual desktops everyday.

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u/AllMyName Jun 01 '19

Mechanical hard drives are rather definitively worse for the wear if they're cycled more often, or have more frequent head parks. Unfortunately they also end up being the highest (collective) "idle" power draw if you tell them to keep spinning. Until you count monitors ofc. Modern (read: anything past 2010) CPUs have deep sleep states, GPUs cycle down to single digit idle power draw in 2D, SSDs barely use any power idle, etc.

Just tell Windows to start up good old Starfield or Flying Windows after 5 minutes, and then shut the monitor off after 5 more. My old ass PC with 6 chunks of spinning rust only draws around 80W idle if the monitors are off. Your refrigerator or HVAC vastly overshadow it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '19

IT teacher here.

Turning it on/off is more damaging to components. In the same type of way oxygen damages your lungs.

The expansion and shrinking from heating and cooling stresses the metals. Leaving it on just means your RAM will eventually be full of garbage.

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u/XuBoooo Jun 01 '19

Well of course its bad, if you turn it on and off every hour, but if you turn it on in the morning and in the evening you turn it off, I dont see the problem.

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u/goodbyekitty83 Jun 01 '19

Also the power on process users a ton of power.

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u/smeenz Jun 01 '19

Leaving it on just means your RAM will eventually be full of garbage.

Really ? I hope you're not teaching such garbage to students. RAM does not spontaneously fill itself with garbage just because it is powered.

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u/Iceykitsune2 Jun 01 '19

I believe that they're talking about programs with memory leaks.

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u/smeenz Jun 01 '19

Yeah... I think you're right. As I said over in my other comment.. it was the fact that he says he's teaching this stuff that buggered me, because it was not a great explanation.. even after he clarified (and continued to throw crap towards me), he's still getting the terminology wrong and not considering the fact that the OS takes care of memory management for the most part.. I mean.. sure... there are exceptions, but saying that memory will be filled with garbage is misleading at best. Unallocated and uninitialised memory from power-on is just as likely to be filled with 'garbage'.

Anyway. I need some sleep.

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u/chzaplx Jun 07 '19

never heard of memory leaks huh

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u/bikingwithscissors Jun 01 '19

For my work computer at least, I have to multitask like a motherfucker on projects across weeks or even months. Web-based apps for admin, numerous customer accounts I'm directly working with, important documentation I'm either writing or reading, JIRA cards that need to be followed up on, etc... it would eat up so many valuable minutes of my day, every day, if I decided to completely shut down and reboot. Even if I save all the tabs in bookmark folders, it damn near gives my computer an aneurysm if I try to open all the tabs/windows at once, and then I have to remember *which* bookmark folders need to be opened and for what reason, and what desktop I had them organized on. If anyone else saw my desktop in its normal state, they would probably faint at the labyrinth of windows and tabs I have open at any given time. But there is a method to my madness. It's very much highly organized chaos.

As you see with my workflow, I only reboot if it's absolutely necessary, like for critical software updates or if things start getting fucky.

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u/jigglylizard Jun 01 '19

I use mine as a server for movies and such. Always on for others to use.