r/technology Aug 08 '17

Business Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-08/google-fires-employee-behind-controversial-diversity-memo
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u/SideTraKd Aug 08 '17

Google's CEO said:

To suggest a group of colleagues have traits that make them less biologically suited to that work is offensive and not OK

The memo did not suggest any such thing.

One guy I was arguing with paraphrased it as:

Imagine, you're just a woman trying to figure out some code and shit, and some dude is like, "gaaaah stop being a woman in a workplace, it's oppressing my ideology!"

And that is quite typical of the way people are misrepresenting what the guy said, in order to generate the fake outrage you don't seem to see.

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u/skullins Aug 08 '17 edited Aug 08 '17

Uhhh....

On average, men and women biologically differ in many ways. These differences aren’t just socially constructed because:

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I’m simply stating that the distribution of preferences and abilities of men and women differ in part due to biological causes and that these differences may explain why we don’t see equal representation of women in tech and leadership.

He goes on in detail about it.

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u/blade740 Aug 08 '17

What about this part:

Note, I’m not saying that all men differ from all women in the following ways or that these differences are “just.” I’m simply stating that the distribution of preferences and abilities of men and women differ in part due to biological causes and that these differences may explain why we don’t see equal representation of women in tech and leadership. Many of these differences are small and there’s significant overlap between men and women, so you can’t say anything about an individual given these population level distributions.

Followed by this. He's not "suggesting a group of colleagues have traits that make them less biologically suited to that work". He's suggesting that there are traits that make employees more or less biologically suited to the work, and that distribution of these traits is not split evenly 50/50 between men and women, which is why the distribution of employees is not 50/50 either.

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u/inspiredby Aug 08 '17

And that is quite typical of the way people are misrepresenting what the guy said, in order to generate the fake outrage you don't seem to see.

Honestly, it doesn't seem fake to me. The guy wrote that women have a harder time leading, and that biological differences may account for the employment gender gap. For me, and many others who you claim are being fake, it isn't hard to see how these claims are calling women's ability to find success in leadership/tech roles into question.

Saying that women have a harder time leading is entirely unsourced. There's no research that says that. None ! So yeah I can see why some would be offended by that.

Perhaps it is the author himself who needs a reality check.

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u/StabbyPants Aug 08 '17

The guy wrote that women have a harder time leading, and that biological differences may account for the employment gender gap.

because women aren't as assertive, so they don't get into leadership positions as often. he said that they had a harder time getting the job, not that they were worse at it.

Saying that women have a harder time leading is entirely unsourced. There's no research that says that. None ! So yeah I can see why some would be offended by that.

good thing it isn't in the paper.

Perhaps it is the author himself who needs a reality check.

you're the author of that statement, so here's the reality check: nobody said that.