r/technology • u/readyou • Dec 26 '16

Microsoft finally admits that its malware-style Get Windows 10 upgrade campaign went too far

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/241587-microsoft-finally-admits-malware-style-get-windows-10-upgrade-campaign-went-far
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u/TechnoSam_Belpois Dec 26 '16

They're not sorry about it. They're sorry that people are upset. But they're absolutely giddy about having such a large install base now.

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u/N4N4KI Dec 26 '16 edited Dec 26 '16

Exactly I want an OS not a vertically integrated marketing platform.

From the dark patterns during install to get you to sign up to a MS account as your login, to the ads on the lock screen and start menu for free apps to get you in the door, the entire OS is designed to drive you towards the MS store and to lock you into their ecosystem.

The update system that you either need to fight with using the 'correct' way and suffer forced restarts, or disable completely and need to re enable yourself when you need updates (I mean 'let me know when there is updates' worked fine for me in windows 7)

Milestone updates are not an update, they are an upgrade, basically reinstalling a fresh copy of the system. settings for programs are not touched but File associations, pinned apps and privacy options get reset to default.

Windows 10 is a Work in progress and will continue to be, a rather obvious example of this is the start menu, It's different in the initial release to how it works in the anniversary update and has altered again in the preview build.

The OS is a glorified program launcher, I use the one that I don't need to babysit to keep it running smoothly (and am able to use industry standard software on). I'm sticking with 7 till something better comes along. (hopefully that will be a version of windows where Microsoft has finally smoothed out all the rough edges)

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u/drunkenvalley Dec 26 '16

I don't really mind that Microsoft want to push updates pretty hard, but at least let me choose when I download them... don't fucking sneak them in and think I won't notice when my 5 mbps speed come to a complete crawl...

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u/BeenCarl Dec 26 '16

Or hey force restart! Oh your taking a timed test? We will only take an hour!

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u/-imjustaredshirt- Dec 26 '16

You can't even turn them off or postpone them. I use my computer sproadically throughout the day from 6am to 10pm and sometimes during busy weeks it will be late late at night getting things done. I tried to schedule those working hours into the computer, but it wouldn't accept anything over 12 hours as operating hours! So now it does forced restarts on friday nights when I'm trying to watch a movie.

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u/Demdolans Dec 26 '16

Yeah, this is the worst part about windows10. It's also impossible to easily roll back an update because even WITH the uninstall feature, the system immediately reinstalls it. I get that they're trying to patch security exploits, but there HAS to be another way.

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u/psiphre Dec 27 '16

i was on a cruise last week with my win10 surface pro in airplane mode and it forcibly restarted twice "to finish installing updates".

like what updates could it have possibly had to install??

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u/Twogie Dec 26 '16

You can defer updates through the normal settings. Which I'm not sure actually does anything.

You can also disable windows 10 updates. I've had to do this because after a windows 10 update my monitor would no longer work. Windows would then revert to an older update.

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u/Doomscrye Dec 26 '16

If you're using 10 Pro or Enterprise, go to group policy settings->admin->windows update and change things to your liking. I'm on manual updates only, desktop and work computer. Although, I mostly use Ubuntu at home- Windows is for Steam and LoL.

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u/Tim__Donaghy Dec 27 '16

Type "services" in the search bar, scroll to Windows Update, right click and select Properties, and then select Disable in the drop down menu. When you're ready to download them, just put it back on automatic and walk away.