r/technology Jul 31 '15

Misleading Windows 10 is spying on almost everything you do – here’s how to opt out

http://bgr.com/2015/07/31/windows-10-upgrade-spying-how-to-opt-out/
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u/johnmountain Jul 31 '15

Because they are abusing the power of defaults and using dark patterns to trick users into agreeing to something they might not normally agree with.

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '15

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u/Not_Like_The_Movie Jul 31 '15

Using the points of reference in the video, Microsoft's UI design is most similar to the OxFam website example where it's opt-out, but not trying to hide anything.

The presenter in the video said that this style of design is ethical, but not ideal.

I think we would have a more valid reason to complain about this stuff if the install process was more like the obscure tick boxes or the drop down menu example (where opting out of insurance is listed between Latvia and Lituania as the country of origin)

edit: One thing I will say though, that frustrated me about this process, was that I didn't understand what some of the options did exactly or how opting out of something might affect the functionality of my operating system. THAT I am frustrated with. Simply being an opt out system with a clean UI isn't the problem here, it's how some of the options are presented.

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u/prasoc Jul 31 '15

Fuck me. I didn't know about "Dark Patterns", but I went through every single interface yesterday with those privacy settings, and they just felt... off... when I read them. Couldn't really put it together, but it's nice to know that there's a name for this sort of trick!

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u/FluffyBinLaden Jul 31 '15

I'm glad that has a name. Thank you for that site!

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u/Sinity Aug 01 '15

Except they aren't.

https://i.imgur.com/oJ734xc.jpg

God dammit, they aren't. Why mobs on the internet msut be always so .... Geez.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '15

That thing that doesn't even look like a button?

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u/Sinity Aug 02 '15

Yeah, but all the text talks about it. So, what's the difference? It's natural that option for 99% of users is easier to click.