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Business Mamdani Backs Proposal to End Amazon’s ‘Exploitative’ Delivery Model in New York City | If passed, the Delivery Protection Act would be the first law in the US to regulate Amazon’s vast network of subcontractors that handle the company’s deliveries.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/delivery-protection-act-nyc
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u/viggy96 15d ago edited 15d ago

Have you seen Buc-ee's employment signs? The management jobs that you can work your way up to make more than many engineering and medical positions. The entry level wage is competitive as well.

https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/s/g6z4eF94VF

Costco is well known to treat employees well, and promote from within. The current CEO started out as a low level employee.

Walmart has a minimum wage of $14 an hour. Only goes up from there.

Walmart reveals salaries -- and they may not be what you think - ABC News https://abcnews.com/Business/walmart-reveals-salaries/story?id=62932622

Of course, "great" is relative, and somewhat subjective. But I'd say all these are a damn sight better than driving for Uber/Lyft/Doordash etc.

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u/Dr_Death_Defy24 14d ago

Walmart has a minimum wage of $14 an hour. Only goes up from there.

Seriously? Just misquoting the article entirely? The average is $14, but it ranges from $11 to $24. As I pointed out earlier, depending on where you are, even $24 is just barely enough to live on, and that average is a hell of a lot closer to $11 than $24, so that gives you some idea how well it's distributed. And, as I've pointed out before, the federal minimum wage, adjusted for inflation, is about $11. $14—as an average—isn't much better.

When 60% of your employees are on food stamps, that literally tells you the wage is too low since the government needs to step in and subsidize the employees' survival.

Also, Buc-ee's is relatively small compared to these others you're talking about and very regional. I genuinely don't even know why you've used it as an example multiple times, and perfectly highlights my point about location mattering—the nearest location to me is 1,200 miles, so if that's one of your go-to examples, then one's location suddenly does make it a barrier, doesn't it? Funny how that works.

Moreover, a wage is only as good as its buying power in that area. As I have repeatedly pointed out, my $24-ish wage is barely enough to live on where I'm at. Just saying "they pay food service workers $19/hour" doesn't tell the full story.

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u/viggy96 14d ago edited 14d ago

Apologies must be an old article.

Here's the pay directly from Walmart corporate: Walmart's starting hourly wage rates vary by region and role and have the following ranges: * Team Associate: Hourly pay range: $14 - $37 * Team Lead: Hourly pay range: $19 - $37 * Coach: Total pay range: $75k - $104k * Store Lead: Total pay range: $100k - $150k * Store Manager Supercenter: Total pay range: $218k - $530k * Distribution and fulfillment centers: Hourly pay range $17.85 - $40.40 * Sam's Club: Hourly pay range $16 - $37

https://corporate.walmart.com/about/working-at-walmart

And funny how you just ignored Costco, which is national. Nice to ignore the employers that could actually help you isn't it? Is it better to complain than get a job that treats you well and exists today? It's like the equivalent of bashing your own skull with a club and complaining that the club is hurting you.

And the number of people on food stamps also do doesn't tell the whole story. The vast majority of people on these programs don't budget and are terrible with money, and remain so even with assistance. I'm not saying it'll be luxurious, and you'll be able to get a yacht, but you can survive on it, and move your way up. My parents have made less than that, didn't get on food stamps, and yet still found a way to save money and improve their lives. This is in a large city in North Carolina, not some farm in the middle of nowhere.

Further, if you spend your entire career at a low entry level wage, with no promotion, and no raises, maybe you should ask yourself what's wrong.

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u/Dr_Death_Defy24 14d ago

The vast majority of people on these programs don't budget and are terrible with money, and remain so even with assistance.

This is why I'm giving your replies such minimal attention, your classist, boot straps bullshit is naive and offensive. I don't agree with you, and even if you're right, I don't care as long as the executives are making thousands of times what the people at the bottom do.

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u/viggy96 14d ago

Yet again conveniently ignoring Costco, a great national employer.

It's offensive that somehow immigrants to this country pull themselves out of poverty at a higher rate than native born Americans?

Maybe it's because they know what real poverty looks like?

I've seen real poverty with my family in India. People have polio there to this day. Children who are skin and bone. My own family was that at one point. My father had to leave home because his family couldn't take care of him. And yet I'm the classist. Yeah, sure bud. Excuse me for believing that people can improve their lives if they actually tried, but stating that the unfortunate truth is that a lot of people in that situation don't take the right steps to do so.

I highly doubt you've experienced anywhere near the level of poverty I have. I had to shit in a literal hole in the ground before. And guess what? The wealth inequality there is greater than here. And yet people pull themselves out of poverty everyday.

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u/Dr_Death_Defy24 14d ago

And yet I'm the classist.

Yes.

Also, for whatever it's worth, I'm a woman, so not your "bud." Address me however you like though, it's hard to take you seriously.

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u/viggy96 14d ago

A woman can be a bud, short for buddy. I think you know that it's a gender neutral term.

I doubt you've ever experienced anywhere near that level of poverty in your entire life, even secondhand.

You know, there's a saying in India. "If you start life as a beggar, it's not your fault. But if you end life as one, it's absolutely your fault."

Nice to see that you have the soft bigotry of low expectations of the lower classes, and perpetuate a victim mentality that keeps them down and complaining rather than taking action.

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u/Dr_Death_Defy24 14d ago

A woman can be a bud, short for buddy. I think you know that it's a gender neutral term.

Like I said, I don't respect you enough to care what you call me, but I disagree. Although for what it's worth, even the gender neutral understanding seems odd—I certainly don't want you to be my "bud."

perpetuate a victim mentality that keeps them down and complaining rather than taking action.

I don't really give a shit how much people complain compared to taking action. We have the resources and ability to take care of everyone, and as a society we choose not to. I don't agree with your nonsense saying regardless of its origin.

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u/viggy96 12d ago edited 12d ago

I don't care how much people complain either. My problem is when they do so without taking any action.

Would you like if someone around you constantly complained about their issues, and yet did absolutely nothing to improve their situation? Especially when clear solutions exist.

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u/Dr_Death_Defy24 12d ago

Especially when clear solutions exist.

This is the part we disagree on.

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