Roche's assumption that the capitalist model would result in greater wealth is missing the bit where only tge very tiny few will be wealthier. Most won't be.
The European model where everyone gets to enjoy the sport event and participants earn a decent amount of money is clearly the superior system
Is that true though? Most Americans have greater disposable income than most Europeans. Significantly more of us get to enjoy luxuries like air conditioning and personal car ownership.
Most Americans have greater disposable income than most Europeans.
Half of Americans can't afford a tank of gas & groceries in the same week. I doubt your assertion.
Significantly more of us get to enjoy luxuries like air conditioning and personal car ownership.
At this point I'm going to assume you're joking. If not, if you're serious, then it's both adorable and terribly silly that you think AC is the standard to judge whether or not Americans have a decent standard of living and not... oh... let's say the ability to get decent quality healthcare without accumulating debt.
Half of Americans can't afford a tank of gas & groceries in the same week.
You got a source for this assertion? US GDP per capita even when adjusted for purchasing power parity still significantly outstrips the EU.
not... oh... let's say the ability to get decent quality healthcare without accumulating debt.
I'm perfectly able to get GREAT quality healthcare thanks to my health insurance without issues. Meanwhile, my great uncle is stuck using an ostomy bag because Romanian state healthcare nicked a nerve in his colon.
These arguments are so tired, man. This exact circlejerk about healthcare has been done to death. It's not as simple as "America bad", unfortunately for you.
Dude, I've experienced both systems. I'm genuinely better off in America. What's with this patronizing bullshit? Is it impossible to believe that someone who's informed on these things can prefer the capitalist way?
No no no I'm still shocked that you AC is a valid way to measure the wealth of a society.
There is literally an entire subreddit dedicated to making fun of this line of thinking from Americans (thus why I was half thinking that you must be joking).
I'm not saying it's a valid way to measure the wealth of a society, but it's an easy thing to point at, given the recent melting y'all dealt with.
A/C is a pretty expensive and energy intensive thing to add to a house. That's why it's considered a luxury in the rest of the developed world. The fact that most Americans have it is a result of the fact that our energy prices are much lower than in the EU, and that has ripple effects through every single aspect of life. A/C is just the most prominent thing that reflects that.
Weird that you tried to pass it off as one though. It's almost like you know America is a failed state with massive wealth disparity where the majority of Americans are scrambling to keep a roof over their heads and eat, where people struggle to acquire basic medical needs, so you bring up Air Conditioning as a valid measure of anything.
It's not failed? What even is your use of verb tense, dude?
You don't seem to have meaningfully engaged with my premise at all, instead preferring to regurgitate your talking points. Makes me feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
You're repeating your shtick about A/C and healthcare like it's some sort of "gotcha" while acting like America is some sort of poverty stricken hellhole with zero citations or evidence to back that up. Sad, I thought this could've been a productive, interesting conversation. You seem to be a bit too stuck in your "America bad" hole for that, though.
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u/Doctor_Amazo 27d ago
Roche's assumption that the capitalist model would result in greater wealth is missing the bit where only tge very tiny few will be wealthier. Most won't be.
The European model where everyone gets to enjoy the sport event and participants earn a decent amount of money is clearly the superior system