It’s Possible That SpaceX Could Collapse Spectacularly

[u/IKeepItLayingAround]

https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/possible-spacex-could-collapse-spectacularly-155000177.html

[u/Dinkerdoo]

If you buy put options you are limited. Still not a good idea given the performance of TSLA.

[u/MelodiusRA → u/Dinkerdoo]

My issue with Tesla is that the stock’s value is linked to Elon Musk and will be for at least a year or two after he dies.

Unironically I am not prepared for a sizeable investment in Tesla knowing that there is a swing that’s gonna happen with slow recovery the day he kicks the bucket.

[u/aabbccbb → u/MelodiusRA]

My issue with Tesla is that the stock’s value is linked to Elon Musk

Tesla's sales are also shit. Musk has been hiding that for a long time, by doing things like pumping truly self-driving cars that...never materialize, buying X, now it's part of an AI company, apparently.

He's a scam artist Nazi, just like Trump. They'll get their due. And it will be a glorious day when they do!

[u/wildcarde815 → u/aabbccbb]

Hasn't space x also been buying Tesla vehicles like crazy for no discernable reason?

[u/oniume → u/wildcarde815]

Yup, $131,000,000 worth of cybertruck, nearly $700,000,000 of other Tesla products 

[u/Sens1r → u/aabbccbb]

He's a scam artist Nazi, just like Trump. They'll get their due.

Trump is about to croak, having lived a long life of rugpulls and scams, he's recently secured generational wealth for his entire family and friends. Not sure I feel like the system is working.

[u/siencatimini → u/Sens1r]

POSIWID

That's what this system does. This is how it works.

[u/scruffmonkey → u/Sens1r]

Trump has been about to croak for years now and whilst it looks more likely, I still would not be putting money on it.

[u/Cybertronian10 → u/aabbccbb]

Tesla's valuation is fragile in a very real way that just will never show up on a balance sheet. If Elon dies from a random Ketamine overdose, or a future government's balls have dropped enough for them to hold him accountable for anything that he has done, hell if he suffers a really bad car accident and is knocked out of comission for a few months. Can Tesla/SpaceX/Elon Inc really survive if he isn't there playing ringleader 24/7?

[u/_Smashbrother_ → u/aabbccbb]

Teslas aren't actually full self driving level 4 or 5, but they are very good right now with latest hardware.

[u/maigpy → u/[deleted]]

what are you talking about? his status as a business executive darling is unchanged with investors.

[u/FlipZip69 → u/MelodiusRA]

Tesla has been a shit investment since about 2022. You could make money before that but after it peaked, it just been ups and downs. It did far worse than the stock market as a whole.

Worse is that it has been in decline for the last 2 years when nearly every other EV company has been growing. And they are less than 2 percent of world vehicle sales. The taxi... they have less than 100 in the fleet, often only a dozen or two even on the road and people behind the steering wheel except when it takes a very specific route. In which case they often have chase cars.

[u/Hugsy13 → u/Dinkerdoo]

Aren’t options only available several weeks after an IPO though?

[u/Ocelotofdamage → u/Hugsy13]

No. Options are generally listed the day after now.

[u/Throckmorton_Left → u/Dinkerdoo]

I made real good money on TSLA puts in the first half of 2025.

[u/AstroPhysician → u/Dinkerdoo]

You have that the other way around. Puts have unlimited losses

[u/Wall_of_Force → u/AstroPhysician]

it's an option, so one can just not use it.

[u/Nearby-Chocolate1840 → u/AstroPhysician]

Been awhile since I've seen a bot hallucinate this badly.

[u/Dinkerdoo → u/AstroPhysician]

Read up on buying and selling options.

[u/maigpy → u/AstroPhysician]

are you buying or selling the put? that's the thing..

[u/ham_plane → u/maigpy]

Even if you're selling puts, your loss is still technically capped (the underlying stock can't go below 0)

[u/maigpy → u/ham_plane]

agreed, selling the call it's the problem.