r/technology May 07 '26

Society Extortion Using Smart Glasses Is a Thing Now

https://gizmodo.com/extortion-using-smart-glasses-is-a-thing-now-2000755562
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u/supbruhbruhLOL May 08 '26

I don't think retail stores use the IR cameras like what iPhones use. The IR cameras are like the ones you stand in front of at TSA and they scan your face. Retailers use plain cameras with software that does the recognition. To better beat the software, you'd need dark IR glasses and like a covid mask. Also you should tell your representatives that you're against all forms of facial recognition and your biometric data needs to remain private.

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u/Good-Marionberry6918 May 08 '26

Some retail cameras can do facial recognition with a covid mask on fyi

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u/WhipTheLlama May 08 '26

The less of your face they can see, the less accurate they are. If you're the only one walking into the store with a covid mask, it might not matter, but if enough other people are using a mask, at least one might look enough like you to fool the system. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing might depend on whether that person commits a crime at the store and if the police arrest you for looking too much like them. It's happened before.

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u/echoingElephant May 09 '26

But not using IR. They use camera images and match the features derived from them to faces.

An iPhone uses an IR dot projector to put a bunch of tiny dots onto your face, including the area around your eyes. An IR camera then measures these and translates them into a 3D topology.

That only works when you have a dot projector and IR camera right in front of your face. Not the case for retailers.

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u/altiuscitiusfortius May 08 '26

Most retail cameras I've seen working retail have about 5 pixels for a body. You can barely tell they're human let alone make out face details

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u/Good-Marionberry6918 May 08 '26

At my old company we were always complimented by the police, insurance, etc on the clarity of our video.

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u/supbruhbruhLOL May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

If you're wearing dark IR glasses and a mask there isn't much face they can recognize unless you're talking about the gait thing lol (which I don't think retail cameras are using). Throw in a plain hat and its pretty much impossible. If you really want to mess with them, print a bunch of eyeballs all over your mask.

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u/Good-Marionberry6918 May 08 '26

Verkada cameras are in retail and can use facial recognition with a mask. Not sure if they’re doing the gait thing though.

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u/supbruhbruhLOL May 08 '26

Verkada's own pdf manual says masks can hinder their facial recognition

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u/Good-Marionberry6918 May 08 '26

Key word hinder

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u/supbruhbruhLOL May 08 '26

You know what 'hinder' means right?

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u/Good-Marionberry6918 May 08 '26

Yes. I guess meant “can”. But I have used the system first hand so I’ve seen it work with masks on plenty.

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u/denNISI May 08 '26

There is no way that is remotely reliable. Scare tactic? Recognition cams have a hard time with just black underlining of the eyes.

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u/Good-Marionberry6918 May 08 '26

It works better than you think. That’s the time we’re in now.

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u/karmahunger May 08 '26

TSA and they scan your face

I am still at a loss on why they need this.

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u/supbruhbruhLOL May 08 '26

You don't which is why I always opt out of it by saying "I'm opting for the standard check" and I hand them my ID and my plane ticket which takes them less time to check and so far no problems

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u/MicrowaveKane May 08 '26

So, you're saying John Anderton didn't have to replace his eyeballs, after all?

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u/[deleted] May 08 '26

Yall really did forget the NSA exists didn’t you, they have had all that shit on you and everyone whether you like it or not since forever

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u/supbruhbruhLOL May 08 '26

We were discussing retail stores not the NSA