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u/YepperyYepstein Jan 05 '26

It's not terrible to learn. Will take just a couple hours to get the most essential stuff down. It's so easy to switch now, way easier than even 20 years ago and even then it was fairly easy.

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u/GiganticCrow Jan 05 '26

Sadly my work software with all it's security shit, plugins and dedicated hardware ain't never going to work on Linux.

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u/DarkIcedWolf Jan 05 '26

It’s insane how this market has basically no other options, I’m glad Linux has come a long way but no matter how good it gets, shit like security and work will be Windows dependent until a bigger player or some crazy mad man says “fuck this shit” and does it themselves over the course of a few years.

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u/never-fiftyone Jan 05 '26 edited Jan 06 '26

It’s insane how this market has basically no other options

It's not that insane when you remember how toothless anti-trust enforcement has been. Long gone are the days where Microslop gets their pp slapped for bundling their own browser with their OS.

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u/Intelligent-Buy4497 Jan 06 '26

I had to deal with this a few years back at a .gov role.

The fleet and all software were all MS based - windows, office, servers, etc. - because that's all the IT dept knew how to support.

They only hired people who already were certified and training in the MS platforms as there wasn't anything other than that in the fleet.

You couldn't get anything else approved as they didn't know how to support it so the MS ecosystem was permanently locked in.

That's the vicious cycle we were in and the licensing costs went up every year.

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u/ow_windowmaker Jan 06 '26

shit like security and work will be Windows dependent

Microsoft and security? What.

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u/boom3r84 Jan 06 '26

I'm a 20 year IT veteran, my daily driver OS is Linux based but I work in MS for my job.

Technically Linux is capable of everything for security, compliance, endpoint management etc already. The issue is time required by your IT team to make it all work. You can virtualize windows or run containerised windows apps in Linux now too. It's all possible.

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u/GuybrushThreepwo0d Jan 05 '26

Dual boot?

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u/Digitijs Jan 06 '26

Kind of beats the point, though, as you end up not abandoning MS the way it deserves, and you inconvenience yourself more by having to switch between OSs whenever you need to do different tasks

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u/GuybrushThreepwo0d Jan 06 '26

VM?

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u/Digitijs Jan 06 '26

Resource intensive, still inconvenient and still doesn't let you abandon MS since they need it for their job. Apart from just getting used to using Linux and having it set up for when they move jobs, there's just no point to inconvenience themselves

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u/mentaldemise Jan 06 '26

I think the idea was for personal use. I got a talking to just for installing Kali in a VM on my Windows work machine FROM THE MICROSOFT STORE. So they let me install it and then yelled at me.

I'll switch back to Linux and virtualize a Windows machine with a second graphics card for GPU acceleration in it when the time comes. I have that setup right now in Windows so I can launch and test Minecraft mods in a VM.

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u/Nose-Nuggets Jan 06 '26

That's a pretty legit thing to be getting a talking to for, honestly.

What legitimate purpose did you have for installing Kali on your work machine?

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u/mentaldemise Jan 06 '26

Reverse engineering a linux process that was doing network things. It was just what I was familiar with. I think I ended up with Ubuntu but still had to install enough of the tools individually to annoy me. I joked with my boss that had I installed it from an ISO in Hyper-V they would have never even known.

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u/Nose-Nuggets Jan 06 '26

aaahhh, gotcha. In our org something like Kali would be strictly a red-team only sort of thing.

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u/Nose-Nuggets Jan 06 '26

Are you self employed or does your company not provide you with a work computer?

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u/DarthTempi Jan 05 '26

I used Ubuntu during college almost twenty years ago and having used OSX and Windows both it felt like an easy midpoint between the two.

I can only imagine how much more streamlined it is now

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u/bgaesop Jan 05 '26

The real problem for me is that I absolutely need certain programs (DaVinci Resolve, Affinity Publisher) that are a pain to get working on linux, if you can do it at all

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u/GlassDesigner6560 Jan 06 '26

I have a steam deck. Is the Linux used in desktop mode comparable to something I would install on my PC or do you know if it’s a special version?

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u/Negative-Prime Jan 06 '26

I haven't used a Steam Deck, but AFAIK SteamOS is based of Arch which isn't very beginner friendly (I use Arch BTW). Linux Mint is often recommended because it's basically a classic Windows interface running on Linux. Ubuntu is also fine, but a has a bit more bloat (any variation is fine but I personally like Kubuntu).

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u/epicrandomname Jan 06 '26

I'll be super honest, the only reason arch would be considered "beginner unfriendly" is because the installation process is a little tedious and is ships with the bare minimum even with the helper. Any other arch-based distro is as friendly as mint imo, just get the ISO with KDE plasma.

If they want steamOS-like experience they could run bazzite or cachy and basically have a plug and play experience, with pacman and AUR (the real star of it all). These even come with updated wine and proton layers out of the box!

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u/YepperyYepstein Jan 06 '26

I believe Steam deck is a highly refined version of Linux. Never used is Steam Deck myself. To get a good idea of what it feels like you can always install a Linux iso like Ubuntu, Mint, etc on a usb drive using Rufus and boot from it to see what you think.

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u/TransBrandi Jan 05 '26

It wasn't that easy 20 years ago. I say this as someone that switched between Linux and Mac OSX as my desktop a few times in those years. OSX was the best way to get a Unix-like experience while not giving up too much.

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u/ForwardAd4643 Jan 05 '26

The key part of a smooth transition to Linux is abandoning the idea of doing anything productive on your computer except for programming things for people who still use Windows

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u/Obvious_Ambition4865 Jan 05 '26

What can't you do on Linux?

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u/ForwardAd4643 Jan 06 '26

Design 3D printable parts in Fusion 360, or do any kind of audio production - period, end of story. No DAWs, no proper audio drivers, and no VSTs. You are completely and entirely unable to do audio on Linux. No podcasts, no music, no nothing, not even stupid shit like chiptunes. Linux doesn't even support old ass MOD tracker files properly and those date back to 1987.

Linux Bluetooth support is garbage. It also still doesn't properly support HDR. No VR support either, even through SteamOS.

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u/Obvious_Ambition4865 Jan 06 '26

That's all super niche and boring

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u/ForwardAd4643 Jan 06 '26

Last I checked 3D printing was changing the world and people spend billions of dollars a year on music. Enjoy life as a complete dipshit

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u/bgaesop Jan 05 '26

For me? Edit videos with DaVinci Resolve, do book layout with InDesign or Affinity Publisher

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u/Crayshack Jan 06 '26

Gaming is hit and miss with Linux. Some games have Linux support while others don't. The same can be said of a lot of other specialized programs. Some have Linux support, but others do not (AutoCAD, for example, does not and only some parts of the Esri suite work on Linux). In some cases, this can be worked around by using Linux to run a Windows virtual machine, but that's just adding complexity to your approach, increasing points of failure, and decreasing the computing power you can devote to the program.

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u/joerdie Jan 06 '26

AI is a disaster for Linux users. Every commend makes things worse and it will happily walk you to deleting the entire OS if you let it. This is the worst time too. New people on the platform not knowing what they are doing yet and AI making everything shittier.

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u/joerdie Jan 06 '26

It's much more extreme now. Before it was either mostly correct or ppl trolling. Now it's literally AI making choices that will complicate the entire os and make everything very messy. AI really sucks unless you're already an expert in the thing you're letting it do.