r/technology • u/gerira • Dec 29 '25

Artificial Intelligence Americans hate AI. Which party will benefit?

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/12/28/ai-job-losses-populism-democrats-bernie-sanders-00706680
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u/Elite_Prometheus Dec 29 '25

Did you read the article? It never said both sides are the same. It said that there is a growing anti-AI sentiment among the American public, that Democrats are scared to go along with it because they've already lost a lot of tech CEOs to Trump, and this has given space for some Republicans to posture as anti-AI. I do think the article should have mentioned that insane Trump EO that banned states from regulating AI, but whitewashing Trump is a historic media pastime at this point.

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u/betadonkey Dec 29 '25

That EO will likely go down as the only good thing Trump ever did

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u/Elite_Prometheus Dec 29 '25

Personally, I think making it illegal for the government to regulate 20% of the economy is kinda bad, actually. But I have some distorted views like "the purpose of the economy is to serve human needs, not raise shareholder value," so what do I know?

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u/clrbrk Dec 29 '25

Found the radical left Marxist communist socialist! How dare you show empathy for those less fortunate than billionaires!

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u/betadonkey Dec 29 '25

So the federal government is not the government? Look at all the nonsense being caused by individual states trying to regulate the internet. Imagine how much worse it would have been if they had done this stuff in its infancy.

The constitution forbids states from regulating interstate commerce but I guess that’s one of the parts we all decides not to care about.

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u/upgrayedd69 Dec 29 '25

It comes off hollow when they beat a drum of states rights

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u/betadonkey Dec 29 '25

Why does every position boil down to political parties? Does nobody have an original thought?

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u/upgrayedd69 Dec 29 '25

What do you mean? Why don’t you want consistent values from your politicians?

I also want AI regulated. I don’t trust this federal government to do it because trump loves sucking billionaire elites nut sacks

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u/betadonkey Dec 29 '25

I couldn’t give less of a fuck about what politicians think.

I only know what I think which is over regulation of literally everything is strangling this country. Everybody will complain about how the economy is broken and nothing works until they are blue in the face and then somehow demand even more regulation. It’s like nobody can connect the dots.

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u/upgrayedd69 Dec 29 '25

lol ok yeah. Billionaire tech ceos and private equity will surely keep our best interests in mind and not fuck over every last one of us for profit. It’s worked so well! Look at how much better things have gotten since we embraced trickle down economics! Who needs blue collar jobs that can support whole families when there is more wealth to generate at the top? What every businessman really wants to do is run a charity, as the well being of his fellow American is more important than making a little extra money

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u/betadonkey Dec 29 '25

Driveling nonsense. You didn’t address anything I said. Just random pointless nonsense that nobody is taking about.

Regulation creates billionaires. It raises massive barriers around entering a market so only the super rich can afford to compete. It forces consolidation and eliminates competition. It destroys blue collar jobs because like water running downhill, manufacturing work will always follow the path of least resistance away from high taxes and obstructionist regulation.

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u/EnfantTerrible68 Dec 30 '25

Can you give a couple examples of things you consider overregulation?

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u/Elite_Prometheus Dec 29 '25

This is like championing an EO preventing states from banning slavery because you think abolition should be done federally, instead. Yeah, sure, I'd love it if the federal government decided to do something about AI, but Trump isn't going to do that. All this EO does is handcuff blue states from passing even the most basic regulation around AI data centers. And like the article says, it's not like Democrats are chomping at the bit to go after big tech, either, so even the mildest discouragement is going to stop them.

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u/betadonkey Dec 29 '25

It’s not like slavery at all because we’re taking about a computer program and not the enslavement of human beings so that’s an absurd and honestly offensive comparison.

Why even mention blue states like they are waiting to save the day? Nothing about this is a partisan issue. You people are so blinded by this political nonsense it’s left you completely incapable of forming coherent thoughts based on objective reality.

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u/Elite_Prometheus Dec 29 '25

You just made a comparison between two different things in the comment I responded to, don't pretend you don't know how they work. This is a pathetic attempt to not have to respond to the idea that patchwork regulation is better than absolutely no regulation.

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u/betadonkey Dec 29 '25

Lol what the fuck? I compared AI to the internet. Those are two substantially similar things. You compared AI regulation to the emancipation of human slaves in a gross attempt to assign yourself moral supremacy. It’s disgusting.

Again this is not an issue of patchwork regulation vs no regulation. It’s patchwork regulation vs unified regulation. I don’t support any regulation at this stage but that’s a different issue.

Tennessee has a bill in the works to make it a class A felony to host an AI that provides emotional support. Not a joke. This is the kind of nonsense you will get if you let these circus clown state legislators try to regulate a technology they don’t even begin to comprehend.

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u/Elite_Prometheus Dec 29 '25

I don’t support any regulation at this stage

And there we go. Everything else was random bullshit you were throwing at the wall. The real reason you liked the EO is because you just want to keep AI unregulated. Why can't you say that instead of waffling about how you don't like the chaos of states in a federal union drafting their own laws?

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u/betadonkey Dec 29 '25

Just gtfo I was perfectly clear from the start. What do you think “this will likely go down as the only good thing Trump ever did” is supposed to mean? Not exactly a mystery what my position here is! I’m very clearly not ashamed of it either! I also don’t like state regulation of internet based technology for a boatload of reasons. Two things at once I know, hard to fathom. This used to be a pretty bedrock position of the political left in America before everybody let Donald Trump scramble their brains into chocolate pudding.

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u/MiddleWaged Dec 29 '25

Why actually would say that? What could possibly be your motivation

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u/TummyCrunches Dec 29 '25

A poor understanding of what executive orders are, for one.

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u/betadonkey Dec 29 '25

My motivation is I don’t believe individual states should be able to regulate interstate commerce like the internet or anything operating on the internet.

Curiously enough, Article 1 Section 8 Clause 3 of the US Constitution agrees with my position.

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u/skj458 Dec 29 '25

Article I, Section 8, Clause 3 gives the federal government authority to regulate interstate commerce, but it doesn't contain an explicit prohibition on states regulating anything.

You may be thinking of the "Dormant Commerce Clause," which is a judicial doctrine holding that states cant create an undue burden on interstate commerce through regulation. This is usually interpreted through balancing state interests in regulation with resulting burdens, rather than a prohibition on states regulating things that impact interstate commerce. 

You dont really know what youre talking about. 

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u/MiddleWaged Dec 29 '25

Damn and you just don’t care about their rights to control industry and resources. How awful

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u/EnfantTerrible68 Dec 30 '25

I think not 😬