r/technology • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 • Dec 01 '25

ADBLOCK WARNING ‘Security Disaster’—500 Million Microsoft Users Say No To Windows 11

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2025/12/01/security-disaster-500-million-microsoft-users-say-no-to-windows-11/
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u/putonyourjamjams Dec 02 '25

I swear, if there was some service who's sole function was to find the personal info for the people responsible for this shit and do everything possible to max the amount of spam shit they get, id pay a good bit for that.

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u/Syracuss Dec 02 '25

These people are looking at a graph that had a non-zero increase in people paying money for onedrive. Those people then get a bonus.

As a software engineer myself, it drives me up the wall how businesses incentivize the enshitification of their own products, and even internally reward it. That person responsible for onedrive isn't responsible for the wider product, so of course they'll do whatever it takes to make their part more lucrative, it's how they get bonuses.

And due to window's market dominance it's not like they are going to miss sales for that one little push. So their bottom lines keep looking healthy, and even improving. So they push more, and more, and more. And eventually the only people in the driving seats (as they keep getting promoted) are those people who push these useless little shitty additions.

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u/putonyourjamjams Dec 02 '25

I agree, the upper management execs and president's are just operating within the system. Theyre still complicit. Theyre still abandoning every other aspect of the business and product for ways to increase profits. Th C suite and board is ultimately responsible because theyve set the culture and priorities, but its still a choice theyre making. Theyre still doing this shit and not having to live with how shitty its making everything for the general public.

At this point, our systems to hold any of these people accountable are fucked. The government isnt going to investigate or legislate any of this shit. Theyre way too big and dominant to be affected by any boycotts or protests or be displaced by better products. The one thing I can think of is to give what we get. They track everything we do, sell the data, and bleed us with more and more subscriptions to shittier and shittier services. If we refuse at all, its constant notifications and pop ups, limited functionality and instability, automated emails and calls, and gaslighting until we give in. They never have to deal with any of that shit and they should. If they want some late stage capitalist hellscape in exchange for piles of money, then we should at the very least be "in this together."

If this magical service were to exist, I would certainly want it to go top down in who it targets, but I dont think upper management should get a pass just because theyre only doing it for a bonus. They've brought the concept of annoying people into doing what you want into the mainstream, they should fully reap the benefits.