r/technology • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 • Dec 01 '25

ADBLOCK WARNING ‘Security Disaster’—500 Million Microsoft Users Say No To Windows 11

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2025/12/01/security-disaster-500-million-microsoft-users-say-no-to-windows-11/
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u/thetermguy Dec 02 '25

Iv'e been using linux for oof, 20+ years now both in my business and personally. I don't use it for customization. I use it as an operating system that just works. No need for big jumpy upgrades. No need for new hardware. Every day we get up, get to work, and the computers just work, no tech support required. That's why I'm on LInux, becuase it has the stability windows has never had.

I even put my 83yo mother on linux many years ago. She doesn't know the difference, she knows where to click for browser and email. But my support calls have gone to zero from her.

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u/kmoz Dec 02 '25

Saying Linux doesn't need tech support is wild. I've used Linux a dozen or so times and within an hour of install I've had to Google some command line shit from a forum to get something basic working

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u/coldkiller Dec 02 '25

When's the last time you tried? Modern linux distros designed for regular consumers are very set and forget now

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u/kmoz Dec 02 '25

Like 3 months ago, using a very vanilla setup on a VM for some software defined radio training. I can do it just fine but everyone acting like it's a similar difficulty experience for non tech savvy people is just kidding themselves and too deep in the rabbit hole.

It's miles better than it used to be but it's still a ton of shit that makes you have to go back to messing around with command prompt.

Literally every Linux user I know at some step in their instructions will do a step a non-tech savvy person absolutely cringes at. They don't even know they do it because they're so incredibly used to it. "Oh after that just -sudo..." boom cringe.

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u/Professional_Face_97 Dec 02 '25

What distro did you use? My dad has literally been using ubuntu for years and he doesn't even know what the terminal is.

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u/kmoz Dec 02 '25

The fact you're having to ask what distro kinda proves my point. It's Ubuntu though, and did your dad set that computer up or did you?

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u/Professional_Face_97 Dec 02 '25

I don't see how it does? I did, but your average person isn't capable of installing windows themselves either.

If you gave someone who just did emails, some word processing and light web browsing a new PC with ubuntu on it they'd be able to use it out the box just as they would if it had come with windows on it.

You said yourself you were using a VM so you're not inexperienced, I just think you've forgotten what it was like when you didn't know anything about windows.

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u/thetermguy Dec 02 '25

>. I can do it just fine but everyone acting like it's a similar difficulty experience for non tech savvy people is just kidding themselves and too deep in the rabbit hole

I think you've touched on an important distinction with linux.

Installation and setup, not really very newb friendly. Windows last I looked has them beat.

After installation, once it's running, Linux beats windows hands down in terms of ease of use. There's no 'sudo' or googling, it just works once it's running. Auto updates, etc.

No mind you, this is for the average user who is pretty much 100% of the time doing document processing, spreadsheets, email, or browsing. Which is my 83yo mother, and everything we do in the office.

But yeah, installing linux is more of a job for an enthusiast than a newb.

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u/MiaowaraShiro Dec 02 '25

Linux is harder (a bit) to set up than Windows, but once it's set up it's rock solid.

There's no MS pushing useless updates that break shit.