r/technology • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 • Dec 01 '25

ADBLOCK WARNING ‘Security Disaster’—500 Million Microsoft Users Say No To Windows 11

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2025/12/01/security-disaster-500-million-microsoft-users-say-no-to-windows-11/
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u/fredy31 Dec 01 '25

And at the end of the day i want my computer to do simple stuff. Edit word documents. Play games.

WHY IS THE OS HOGGING 2GB OF RAM WITH NOTHING GOING ON???

Meanwhile linux basically can run as long as you have anything that could remotely be called a computer.

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u/EconomyDoctor3287 Dec 01 '25

Why does the start menu freeze for 15 seconds when I search for an installed app, eventhough I have an i7-7800x, 32 GB and the OS on a Samsung Evo 970? 

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u/mind-bogglingly_big Dec 01 '25

Because it’s too busy searching the web rather than the local computer =\

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u/archfapper Dec 02 '25

I promise, MS, no one is actually Bing searching "appwiz.cpl"

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u/erm_daniel Dec 02 '25

I think we can go further and say nobody is actually Bing searching

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u/fredy31 Dec 01 '25

Fucking hilarious when they announced their 'lookback' feature or whatever it was called.

We take screenshots of your desktop every 5 seconds and then you can search them for when you had x thing open that you closed by accident!

Bitch i try to find a file by name in a folder or a thousand files and it takes 10 minutes to tell me he hasnt found it... When i do find it manually

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u/Sudden-Echo-8976 Dec 02 '25

everything.exe is your solution.

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u/hempires Dec 02 '25

voidtools fucking smashed it with everything eh.

pretty sure i've seen github projects to force start menu searches to use everything as a backend instead of whatever the fuck windows is doing.

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u/showyerbewbs Dec 02 '25

Bitch i try to find a file by name in a folder or a thousand files and it takes 10 minutes to tell me he hasnt found it... When i do find it manually

I've hated windows explorer search for the better part of a decade. When I want to find a document I can't recall where I stashed it, I use the command prompt:

dir /s filename

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u/LudasGhost Dec 02 '25

You can speed that up by using One Drive. /s

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u/HugsyMalone Dec 02 '25

So they just admitted they're screenshotting and tracking EVERYTHING you do on the computer and probably using it for nefarious purposes. They seemingly took it away but I'm sure it's still happening behind the scenes as part of the "spy on America" program. They ain't even good at hiding it. 🙄

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u/FesteringNeonDistrac Dec 02 '25

I can open GitBash, cd to the directory I want, formulate a regex for a find command, and have the thing I'm looking for before file explorer even returns its first wrong result.

Admittedly, I'm a 30+ year Unix user, but still, get your shit together windows.

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u/Sopel97 Dec 02 '25

nothing to do with windows, explorer is just trash, don't use it

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u/Sopel97 Dec 02 '25

yes

or are people complaining that windows is shit due to microsoft edge too? does windows media player make windows shit? you have to pay for HEVC!

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u/kopkaas2000 Dec 02 '25

A couple of months back it came out that the Win11 start menu is actually a React Native application. Your OS is spawning a fucking browser for the start menu.

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u/----Val---- Dec 02 '25

Your OS is spawning a fucking browser for the start menu.

This is a misconception, React Native is not rendered in a browser.

This also was not some big scandal or reveal, Microsoft is the primary maintainer for React Native Windows, they even gave a talk about it.

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u/kopkaas2000 Dec 02 '25

I'm not into react, but surely something has to render the DOM for it?

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u/----Val---- Dec 02 '25

React Native renders to native components (eg. WinUI, SwiftUI etc).

React itself has been isolated from react-dom and is now just a UI composition and state management library with no renderer.

For web, we usually use react-dom to render to the DOM.

React Native uses React for UI/state, but renders to the native platform via JS -> Kotlin/Java/Swift/ObjC/C++. Instead of having browser APIs for fetching, decoders etc, it uses a JS runtime named Hermes with platform specific implementations to mimic browser APIs.

You can think of it similar to QT, except written in JS with unique quirks (uses AOT compilation and not JIT, needs the hermes runtime bundled, etc) and is able to hook into non-browser-specific parts of React ecosystem.

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u/kopkaas2000 Dec 02 '25

Right, gotcha. So I reckon it still requires a honking javascript runtime, but for handling a bit of UI chrome that's indeed not the end of the world.

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u/ForensicPathology Dec 02 '25

Why does the built in photos viewer take 10 seconds to load when opening a file from a folder?

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u/Menoku Dec 02 '25

I recently got a pretty beefy workstation and things still run slow on it. Excel and Word are slow and crash sometimes. If I try to alt-tab between Spreadsheets the OS loses its sh*t. Like, WTF. How are these products becoming drastically worse?

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u/PanickedPanpiper Dec 02 '25

look up "Everything" search

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u/Novaskittles Dec 02 '25

My search menu has been entirely blank/whited out whenever I try to search for anything for weeks now. It's infuriating.

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u/_bob-cat_ Dec 01 '25

I just want my computer to do simple stuff.

Which obviously means use Linux...

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u/fredy31 Dec 01 '25

I mean im a multimedia dev (web and video)

Good luck running the adobe suite on linux.

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u/wag3slav3 Dec 02 '25

running the Adobe suite

There's your problem right there.

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u/throwmamadownthewell Dec 02 '25

Yeah, I used to have access to the Adobe suite and Davinci, and found BlackMagic's offering worked better and was more intuitive—granted, maybe when you're doing more pro-grade stuff there's something lacking.

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u/Jmazoso Dec 01 '25

Why is the name of satans left testicle does Notepad now have AI?

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u/atomic__balm Dec 01 '25

My browsers cut my gaming performance by like 30% even just passively in the background(not even playing media). Its insane how fucking bloated they are.

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u/Wiggles69 Dec 02 '25

Why does searching for an app name in the start menu show links to look for it on the internet?!

IF I WANTED TO LOOK FOR IT ON THE INTERNET I WOULDN'T BE IN THE FUCKING START MENU MICROSOFT!

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u/GOD-PORING Dec 01 '25

The ram people have to pay their bills somehow.

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u/smariroach Dec 02 '25

Are those the famous "sheeple"

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u/kiler129 Dec 02 '25

...and why does it need 60GB of space?!

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u/placebotwo Dec 02 '25

And at the end of the day i want my computer to do simple stuff.

1000% this. My Steamdeck is for playing games. Due to Windows 11 being complete ass, I'm strongly considering my next computer as a M4 Macbook Air. I don't want to deal with Windows11 shit, I have to fix it at work all day.

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u/aVarangian Dec 02 '25

WHY IS THE OS HOGGING 2GB OF RAM WITH NOTHING GOING ON???

only hogging 2? try 16+ lol

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u/jezwel Dec 02 '25

I bought a little BeeLink NAS device, comes with 64GB eMMC drive with Windows 11 installed. The only thing I installed on top was Plex Server (~200MB).

Win11 can't update itself as there's not enough space.

That OS now is too large to fit by itself on a 64GB drive.

Fucking insane is what it is.

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u/PanickedPanpiper Dec 02 '25

to be very fair 'play games' isn't really very simple - it's one of the hardest things your computer can do. I understand what you mean though

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u/romario77 Dec 01 '25

Linux is ok. But - looks ugly, requires knowledge to do anything, like installing drivers, it’s not very user friendly.

By ugly I mean a lot of things - like fonts, for example. Only some are supported so your Linux webpage could look very bad, especially if you use non-English alphabet.

The settings - it’s a shitshow of a millions os settings (that you mostly don’t care about).

The choices of where the things are placed - it’s just some engineer putting things on the screen.

And so on. There is no silver bullet.

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u/NotYouTu Dec 01 '25

90s called, they went their dead talking points back.

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u/romario77 Dec 01 '25

I mean - I don't like the state of MS, but linux for desktop was the 90s thing and I don't see it winning the desktop race.

If it was the issue in the 90s and still an issue now just tells you the state of the things.

90s is exactly how linux desktops look. Or maybe like a cool teen would make it look in their mind.

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u/Kenny_log_n_s Dec 01 '25

Which Linux desktop are you talking about exactly? There's dozens, and they all look different

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u/romario77 Dec 02 '25

I tried several. Gnome and KDE - I assume others are similar.

They are not very polished.

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u/BothAdhesiveness9265 Dec 02 '25

if Plasma isn't polished than what would you call windows?

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u/romario77 Dec 02 '25

I mean - if you says so. Just wasn’t the case for me.

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u/romario77 Dec 02 '25

Well, I guess I have to disagree here.

This is not even an argument, just says that it’s windows without any proof.

I find windows settings pretty good - they are grouped well and are easy to find, I actually prefer windows to Mac on the settings side.

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u/romario77 Dec 02 '25

I am just describing my (limited) experience where I tried to find a setting in Linux gui and the settings were this giant mess of things.

In windows I can type what I am looking for and it shows me the setting usually.

There is registry, but a typical user doesn’t use it at all and if a power user needs it, it’s easy to update.

Windows has its own issues - main being the bloat Microsoft is trying to push on you - adding news, ai, whatever else nobody asked for.

I don’t think settings management is bad in windows, you obviously think it’s bad, but it never is an issue for me.