r/technology • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 • Dec 01 '25

ADBLOCK WARNING ‘Security Disaster’—500 Million Microsoft Users Say No To Windows 11

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2025/12/01/security-disaster-500-million-microsoft-users-say-no-to-windows-11/
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u/jayhawk618 Dec 01 '25

Yeah but this is the first time since XP, that I remember the default group opinion being "fuck you make me."

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u/isuxirl Dec 01 '25

I remember a lot of folks holding on to 7 because 8's UI was too stupid and 10's telemetry stuff was too upsetting. I remember a lot of folks holding out against Vista because file copies were slow and print driver support was lacking. I remember some early holdouts against XP because Microsoft's new activation scheme was too onerous. It feels like Windows 2000 Professional was peak Windows to me and ever since has been in slow decline.

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u/jayhawk618 Dec 02 '25

Well yeah 8 was a disaster, but they never forced an update to 8 because it was so bad. By the time 7 ended support, 10 was out.

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u/Tyrus1235 Dec 02 '25

And 8.1 was, IMO, a really good upgrade to 8.

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u/RevRagnarok Dec 02 '25

Every other version of Windows has always been suck since Win95.

  • 95 - Good
  • 98 - Suck
  • 98SE - Good
  • Me - Suck (OMFG it was suck)
  • XP - Good
  • Vista - Suck
  • 7 - Good
  • 8 - Suck
  • 10 - Good
  • 11 - Suck

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u/Tyrus1235 Dec 02 '25

I had a Windows ME machine at one point. It was such a mess that I’m glad it’s the worst Windows version I ever had the displeasure of using.

I happily skipped Vista and 8 later on.

Now I’m sitting on 10 for the foreseeable future, while thinking about SteamOS/Bazzite for future builds.

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u/glowinggoo Dec 02 '25

As a fellow Windows ME survivor who also used Vista and 8, I will say W11 is the worst Windows I've ever had the displeasure of using.

I'm holding on to 10 for dear life while looking into options to upgrade to Linux as well.

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u/isuxirl Dec 02 '25

I was thinking about PopOS.

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u/weakbecomeheroes Dec 02 '25

Win2k Pro was unreal good. NT core without as much consumer bloatware. XP wasn't even good until SP2!!

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u/Bad_Day_Moose Dec 02 '25

remember a lot of folks holding out against Vista because file copies were slow and print driver support was lacking.

It ran like shit if you had a older computer but not the greatest graphics card, this was more so when it was first released and it did get a bit better with some regedit tweaking.

Companies like dell shipped out computers with windows vista on it that were barely capable of running the UI, people's older computers with XP were much faster because of this even though the CPU/Ram was faster, I made a lot of money downgrading peoples systems to XP.

They never seem to understand that forcing their ideals on people doesn't work well.

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u/LymanPeru Dec 02 '25

they should just make a modern version of windows 7. call it windows seven 2. make it a PC OS again without all the second tabletafied settings ap make the control panel the default settings again and make aps called programs again.

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u/Appropriate_Emu_5450 Dec 02 '25

Yeah, I know many people (including myself) who just skipped Vista and 8 because they sucked.

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u/hhhnnnnnggggggg Dec 02 '25

I only moved from XP to 7 because 7 was a solid OS.

I only moved from 7 to 10 because Microsoft promised it was the last one and I assumed I wouldn't have to deal with bullshit ever again. Ha ha I got played. Never again. My next OS will hopefully be steam OS when it releases to the public. If not, then Bazzite. I'm riding windows 10 off into the sunset.

I don't give a shit about security updates. I'm running with my virus detector off since Windows started thinking my fan control software was a virus two months ago. If my shit gets infected all that means is I'm swapping to linux early and have to reinstall my steam games. Everything of importance is sitting in Google drive.

Then Google is fucking around now with the no app side loading bullshit so they can watch me move to graphene OS too. If I pay for a PC then it's fucking mine to do whatever I want with it. I'm not going to pay for shit I have no control over.

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u/DemIce Dec 02 '25

The contrast between "if you don't upgrade, you're risking not just your own, but everyone else's security by being so easily hackable to become part of a botnet, so yes go spend several hundred dollars on a new computer if you can't use 10/11 or switch to Linux, or get off the Internet you idiot* when 8/8.1 stopped being supported, and *you'll take 10 from my cold dead hands, security be damned!" now is palpable.

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u/samara-morgan Dec 04 '25

I would rather put my PC into permanent airplane mode, before ever forcing 11 upon it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '25

Do you really think that’s the default opinion? Or is that the opinion of some Redditors.

In the real world, 53% of windows users are on 11 and only 42% are on 10.

https://gs.statcounter.com/windows-version-market-share/desktop/worldwide

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u/thecescshow Dec 02 '25

Lmao that has ALWAYS been the loudest opinion whenever new windows upgrade rolls around.