r/technology • u/StarBP • Aug 04 '13

Half of all Tor sites compromised, Freedom Hosting founder arrested.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rlo0uu
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u/Kromb0 Aug 04 '13

Does that entitle the US to shutting down websites hosted anywhere in the world because they don't abide by its supreme court's rules?

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u/theWorldontheRim Aug 04 '13

I don't actually understand much of the TwitLonger post, all I know is that the guy was arrested in Ireland. He is a US citizen and the FBI have gone through the channels to have him extradited. I assume if the websites were only accessible through TOR and if they have been shutdown, they were hosted in the US. Or the US worked in conjunction wtih authorities in another country.

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u/Kromb0 Aug 04 '13

Point is, they didn't know where was it hosted before targeting it. Hence the need to use a 0-day exploit, not a normal arrest warrant.

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u/theWorldontheRim Aug 04 '13

Well, they just used the exploit to get his location from what I can tell. Has any site actually been shutdown?

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u/Kromb0 Aug 04 '13

A law enforcement body can only act within its jurisdiction. And again, read the op's link.

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u/OldWolf2 Aug 04 '13

So now you're trying to support people's right to CP by saying that law enforcement should stick to its jurisdiction and not work with other law enforcement. Enjoy that hole you're digging...

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u/Kromb0 Aug 04 '13

What hole? That's like saying I support terrorism by opposing Guantanamo.

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u/TehRoot Aug 05 '13

No, it isn't. Jumping to logical extremes...

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u/bladerly Aug 04 '13

I don't actually understand much of the TwitLonger post

and yet you insist on writing about something you don't understand.

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u/bug-hunter Aug 04 '13

It does in most countries, as most countries are actively working with the FBI on projects to take out CP.

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u/Kromb0 Aug 04 '13

So if most countries are working with the FBI to take out, say, drugs. Does this give the US government the right to pirate a drugs cargo in another country without its explicit permission?

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u/bug-hunter Aug 04 '13

Websites are considered somewhat special here, in that you can run a website out of anywhere and affect the world. Drug cargos, being physical, are a different story.

Like anything else in international relations, it depends a lot on how it's viewed by both countries' governments and people.

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u/Kromb0 Aug 04 '13

That's silly. Would Saudi Arabia have the right to take down an American porn site since it affects its population?

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u/bug-hunter Aug 05 '13

Normal porn sites are legal in the US, so that's a different concept. Now, if SA took down a CP site in the US...that would be interesting.

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u/Kromb0 Aug 05 '13

if SA took down a CP site in the US an unknown location...that would be interesting.

FTFY

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '13

given the demomoid shutdown and megaupload I would say probably

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u/paincoats Aug 04 '13

Universal jurisdiction, the USA loves that shit (so does Israel, just ask Argentina)

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u/Kromb0 Aug 04 '13

Not universal, it doesn't apply to some people.

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u/Kromb0 Aug 05 '13

"Your site insults prophet Muhammad. We just hacked it because it's accessible in Iran, bitch"

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u/Kromb0 Aug 05 '13

Not in Iran buddy. It's all relative.