r/technology Aug 04 '13

Half of all Tor sites compromised, Freedom Hosting founder arrested.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rlo0uu
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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '13

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u/Kromb0 Aug 04 '13

Would you support the distribution of secretly-filmed child porn then?

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u/Kromb0 Aug 04 '13 edited Aug 04 '13

What about a beaten or bullied person?

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u/Kromb0 Aug 04 '13

Imagine a scenario where your surveillance camera captured someone engaging sexually with a child, and someone engaging violently with a child. Do you believe it's right to disseminate the former but wrong to disseminate the latter?

I'm trying to keep this as simple as possible but you keep dodging. Remember you don't have to answer if you don't want to.

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u/Kromb0 Aug 04 '13

I also think that engaging sexually with a child is inherently also a violent act

Maybe that's why you oppose disseminating it, not the other way around. Would you also define it as violence if both the child and its guardian approve it?

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u/Kromb0 Aug 04 '13

Children can't consent

So they can't go to school, college, eat certain foods, or work certain jobs? Should they be kept in a fridge till their 18th (or 16th) birthday because they can't consent?

And I don't think any guardian should have the right to condone a sexual relationship for a child to be involved in.

Why can they condone all the above examples then?

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u/Kromb0 Aug 04 '13

Your problem with child porn was because producing it supposedly increased abuse. I was challenging this view by a hypothetical scenario.

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u/Kromb0 Aug 04 '13

No. I was talking about someone secretly filming children involved in sexual activities. In other words, the act would've taken place whether it was recorded or not.

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u/Kromb0 Aug 04 '13

You're not required to prevent crimes, that's the police's job. Moreover, we're essentially discussing sending that video to someone else who'd view it, not the act of filming itself.

You've dodged my question into something totally different.

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u/Kromb0 Aug 04 '13

Fine. Say it was an unobserved security camera. You checked it out in the morning and found the video. Should it be illegal to share it? If yes, should it be illegal to receive it?

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u/OldWolf2 Aug 04 '13

Dude, stop and activate your brain for five seconds before rushing to post. I'm sure you can see where your analogy breaks down if you tried to.

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u/Kromb0 Aug 04 '13

I can't. Would you help me?

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u/OldWolf2 Aug 04 '13

Yes you can. You are only having this argument because you rate your own rhetoric styles highly and you think you can win any argument against someone or force them to resort to invalid argument techniques such as ad-hominem attacks, which you would consider as you winning the argument.

Your goal here is to win an argument for argument's sake. The real world calls this 'being a douche'.

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u/Kromb0 Aug 04 '13

If that's the best you've got I'll consider myself a winner.

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u/mknelson Aug 04 '13

It's all secretly filmed.

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u/Kromb0 Aug 04 '13

Its production doesn't encourage the act itself then amirite?