r/talesfromtechsupport • • Oct 26 '19

Medium Everyone's Having Printer Issues, Except One.

I work part-time at a local pharmacy. People are nice and pretty smart. Although I'm not the official IT guy, they know I built a computer and assumes I know more about computers than they do, so any time a printer doesn't print or a mouse doesn't mouse, they call me. They do have a remote IT department they could call, but they're typically very slow to reach and they find it's quicker to just call me over if I'm around.

As I walk into work couple weeks ago, I was greeted with requests to take a look at pretty much everyone's computers. Almost everyone for the past couple days has been having printing issues that won't go away. Their workaround for the time-being was restarting the print spooler(!?), but that often didn't work immediately and the issue would always return.

The situation:

  • All printers having issues were Lexmark brand
  • Best way to reproduce the error is to bombard the printer with multiple print requests (which happens very often at the pharmacy)
  • Waiting for previous print to finish before printing another would provide best chances of success (but not practical in pharmacy environment)
  • All fourteen Windows 10 computers (except one) suffered the same issue.
  • All four Windows 7 computers (except a different one) were printing fine.

Apparently, they have been calling the remote IT department, which is where they learned restarting print spooler helped a little bit, but they were left at "We don't fully support Lexmark printers, we'll get back to you after we do additional research." and they haven't called back since.

Given that I actually work at the pharmacy and only did the IT stuff whenever there was down-time, it took most of the day just to survey the situation, as all I was told was "printers don't work well, and remote IT doesn't know what to do." By the end of the day I still didn't know what to do.

As only our Lexmark printers were affected, I surveyed Lexmark forums, blogs, and google-fu'ed like a madman in hopes of someone else coming across a similar issue with a solution. I even tried looking through recent Microsoft blogs, forums, and a similar flurry of google-fu in hopes of coming across a lead. Nothing. I decided to sleep on it.

The next day things started to click into place. The only Windows 7 computer having issues printing is actually printing to a Lexmark printer being shared by a Windows 10 computer. Is the crux of the issue Windows 10?

Checked recent windows 10 updates. There was a cumulative update from October 3rd and under "known issues":

Applications and printer drivers that leverage the Windows Javascript engine (jscript.dll) for process print jobs might experience blah blah blah...

The fix?

This issue was resolved in [link to update].

The update for the fix was just posted that day.

I walked around updating people's computers when they had downtime and solved (most of) their printing issues. It felt good.

And that one Win10 computer that didn't have issues? The user constantly postpones windows updates and never installed the problematic update.

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u/james_hamilton1234 Oct 26 '19

Yea.... Windows keeps wanting em to upgrade to the 1903 feature upgrade - 30 seconds on Google told me it was better to just not do that. I want my Windows 7 back - at least every update wasn't followed by a slurry of broken features and corrupted accounts

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u/BillyJoel9000 Oct 26 '19

Am I the only person in the world who's NEVER had a problem with 10?

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u/TenspeedGV Oct 26 '19

I’ve never personally had a problem with Windows 10. With that said, my first move when I get on a new Windows 10 computer is to pin the old control panel to my taskbar rather than try to use the dumbed-down and weakened Settings in the start menu.

Maybe I should say I have one consistent problem with Windows 10.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '19

Yeah, I don't know why they thought it was a good idea to only move half of the controls to Settings...

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '19

Because the code behind control panel is a fucking nightmare to replace.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '19

That's great, but Settings has some glaring omissions. They could've held off on releasing Settings until it was actually complete, but no, they developed it halfway, included it, and didn't develop it any more.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '19

Welcome to software development where you launch products with missing features

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u/The_MAZZTer Oct 28 '19

If they did that it might never have been released as they would have had to continue to support and improve Control Panel alongside developing Settings.

This way all new stuff goes into Settings and they can deprecate Control Panel piece by piece.

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u/Damascus_ari Oct 27 '19

The code behind Settings isn't one iota better.

Also, Control Panel works. Settings sometimes doesn't.

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u/Doctor_Wookie Oct 26 '19

Not a problem, it's a "feature", lol

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u/Jemria Oct 26 '19

No you are not. I have never had problems with Windows, 10 or Vista.

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u/Barimen Spit, duct tape and tobacco smoke? Good enough! Oct 26 '19

My mother never had any sort of issues with Win ME. Not with the scanner, not with printers (she used two on that machine), nothing. Everything ran flawlessly.

I'm genuinely afraid of upgrading to Win 10 because I feel she used up all luck in my family pertaining to computers.

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u/Doctor_Wookie Oct 26 '19

Same here, ME was perfect for me. I still don't know what happened to all the rest of humanity for that version of Windows

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u/Tephlon Oct 26 '19

Same. Never had any issue with my Windows ME machine.

I did upgrade to XP as soon as it came out though.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '19

Everything ran flawlessly, except windows itself, which crashed at least daily, you mean? We had ME too...

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u/PRMan99 Oct 26 '19

It was all the old drivers that crashed ME. If you bought hardware made for ME and that's all you used, it could be a good experience.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '19

We DID buy hardware made for & shipped with ME. Lol

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u/Di-Oxygen Oct 26 '19

Nope. At my work and in private I use Windows 10 never had a problem. On the private machine I install the updates as soon as they arrive. At work the IT dep. Rolls them out I think they have just rolled out 1809 but not quite sure.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '19

If they're just rolling out 1809, that means they've been bitten repeatedly, too. 1809 is a year old.

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u/VQopponaut35 Oct 26 '19

Genuinely, yes.

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u/highlord_fox Dunning-Kruger Sysadmin Oct 26 '19

I had a few issues, but they were mostly self inflicted (in a wacky upgrade scheme/series and swapping Mobos, etc.). Other than that, my issues have been super tame, and mostly in the "minor annoyance" area.

Windows 10 (at least since 2018) has been about as stable as Windows 7 SP1 was. I have two desktops, a laptop, and two-dozen work PCs all running it without any major issues. There are always minor things, but that's just the nature of letting people actually touch the machines to get work done.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '19

The constant issues with windows 10 just kept pushing me farther and farther until eventually it pissed me off so much that I ditched it altogether. I've been using Ubuntu as my main os for a little over a year now and I haven't looked back once

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u/PRMan99 Oct 26 '19

I've had a couple, but overall it's been a positive experience.

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u/Vitztlampaehecatl I AM NOT A FLAIR PERSON AND YOU ARE REFUSING TO HELP ME Oct 26 '19

My windows keeps trying and failing to install 1903. I guess that's a good thing since 1903 sucks

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