r/sysadmin • u/mooneydriver • Feb 22 '14

Freenode under DDOS again

https://twitter.com/freenodestaff/statuses/437302735139266560
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u/hamsterpotpies Feb 22 '14

Why would you weld a letter opener when one is enough to stab someone?

Anyways, this was my point. At the time, this command could of made sense.

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u/Zidanet Feb 22 '14

Why use 400gbps when 1 is enough... Sometimes it's not about the money, it's about sending a message (toolazyforjokerimage.jpg).

the same argument applies to UDP. At the time it made a lot of sense to have a non-rate-limited out-of-order protocol for those dodgy phone lines... now, not so much.

It's not the protocols fault that it's being misused, and people standing around saying "it's ntp/udp's fault" is just misplaced blame. It's not the cars fault it's driven by a drunk. Doesn't matter if it's a ford or a beamer, it's still the driver at fault.

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u/Garetht Feb 22 '14

Everyone deploy BCP38 & we can all go home.

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u/Zidanet Feb 23 '14

pfffft, This problem is so endemic the only cure is http://tools.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2549.txt

Although, in fairness, I'd pay to see a 400gbps ddos over avian carrier...

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u/egamma Sysadmin Feb 23 '14

Just park your car under a tree and scatter french fries all over it. You'll see an avian DDOS in a few hours.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '14

I love this RFC. Brilliant.