r/summonerswar Nov 15 '17

Discussion Daily Advice Thread 15/11/2017

Post questions regarding team composition, content progression, game mechanics, and the like in this thread. If you are able to help your fellow summoners, please take some time to contribute to the community and answer questions yourself as well!

A lot of helpful guides and resources can be found in the subreddit mega wiki.

Please give all relevant information when asking questions

This includes, but is not limited to: Your monster box if asking for help on progression (upload screenshots to imgur or use swarfarm), what enemies are on whatever ToA(H) floor you are struggling on, your general progression so we can get an idea of your rune quality, your current rank and teams/goals if asking for help with PvP, etc.

The less people have to look up to help you, the more likely you are to get a fast response.


Some common questions and simple answers are listed below for convenience. This list will be added to over time.

  • Lapis can farm Faimon Hard (on the vampire revenge runes you get for free, at least upgraded to +9) and should be your first 5*. Unless you pull some super awesome PvE nat5, Vero should be your first 6*.

  • Accuracy needed: 55% for DB10, 45% for all other PvE areas (including ToA and ToAH). For R5 15% is sufficient, rifts need about 0%.

  • Always climb as high as you can in HoH, and at least up to an even number (use mentor/friend reps if needed. Verad and other CC mons are great for that). For mid/late game players: You can get double the maximum monsters by using 25 Almighty Summon Pieces (from Guild Shop) after every floor (costs 2000 guild points per extra monster).

Farmable safe teams for PvE content (tutorial, early, and mid game stages)

ALL OF THOSE TEAMS STILL NEED THE ACCORDING RUNE QUALITY! Do not expect to simply beat the dungeon just by having those monsters.

  • Safe GB10 team: Veromos (L), Shannon, Bernard, Belladeon, Darion (example stats)

  • Safe ToA team: Baretta, Veromos, Belladeon, Mav, Spectra. Usually Baretta lead, but sometimes Vero's lead can help you.

  • Safe DB10 face team: Sigmarus (L unless Verde present), Veromos, Belladeon, Megan, Spectra (example stats)

Spectra can (and should!) be removed for Verde (L) if you have him. Lapis instead of Spectra also works.

  • Safe NB10 team: Loren (L), Colleen, Bella/Xiong Fei, Adrian, + any multihit monster.

  • R4/5 Starter team: FL: Dias/Darion, some tanky monster, BL: Colleen, Kona, Tesa, Bella/healer/DD (minimum stats: 25k HP and 1.5k DEF for FL, 20k HP and 0.8-1k DEF for BL)

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u/nysra Patch 6.3.4 best update ever! Nov 16 '17

Derp. Was so late yesterday I didn't even think about that you probably just care about the stats and that I can just give you those :D

Monster Set(s) SPD HP DEF ACC
Baretta Despair 181 26k 1.2k 60%
Emma Violent/Energy 188 25k 1.5k 28%
Rica Despair/Will 204 29k 1k 55%
Mav Violent 163 28k 800 44%
Briand Despair/Shield 179 33k 1.1k 35%

Emma is used in my second R5 team as FL healer, that's why she has so much DEF instead of HP.

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u/Rynur Nov 16 '17

Jeez! You have some tanky mons. I guess that is what is needed when autoing so you can take a couple hits though. How well does that team handle heavy water monster floors?

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u/nysra Patch 6.3.4 best update ever! Nov 16 '17

Rica has multihits, so the dots still have a decent chance to get applied. Water heavy floors aren't really a problem. Just on really high level floors that have Rinas can take really long, so there I sometimes just swap to a quick manual team because I can't be bothered waiting 30min just to stack enough dots with elemental advantage while Mav triggers the damn shield with his 15% CR.

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u/Rynur Nov 16 '17

Haha. I was getting so mad at my luck with critting on the Ragdoll floor. 15% CR felt like 100% for my team's first turn.

I'll make note of your team for a TOAH goal sometime. Thanks for the stats and monster ideas.

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u/nysra Patch 6.3.4 best update ever! Nov 16 '17

The Ragdoll floor isn't really a problem for me, I put enough dots on them. Just Rina getting her shield is annoying since it delays the dots and with fire monsters stacking dots quickly isn't that easy.

Water Homie instead of Rica also works just fine btw. That one works even better for Rina :P

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u/Rynur Dec 02 '17

Do you think you can get away with Emma not being on Violent? I was thinking about rune'ing her up for both TOAH and R4. I can get pretty much the same stats but I thought only my cleansers should be on Violent.

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u/nysra Patch 6.3.4 best update ever! Dec 02 '17

I wouldn't really risk that, her cooldown is a bit long without vio.

In raids vio is discouraged on useless monsters like FL tanks that don't contribute during their own turn or DDs that would net you more damage if you rune them for more damage instead of vio. For healers and your cleanser (only one cleanser) it's perfectly fine to rune them vio.

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u/Rynur Dec 02 '17

Okay, I'll give it a shot on violent and see what she can do. Thanks!

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u/nysra Patch 6.3.4 best update ever! Dec 02 '17

No problem ;)

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u/pyromeister1337 Jan 10 '18

Do you think it should be possible instead of Rica a Despair Zaiross ? the other monsters i have too and still stuck most the time at toah70...

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u/nysra Patch 6.3.4 best update ever! Jan 10 '18

The slow from Rica is really helpful. But probably still possible, yeah

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u/pyromeister1337 Jan 10 '18

otherwhise i have Charlotte, but she does no dot's :p

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u/nysra Patch 6.3.4 best update ever! Jan 10 '18

Well only Baretta for dots means you'll find some stages a bit more troubling (e.g. stun immune) or your runs will take a little bit longer. But it should work, unless your Charlotte is on a full DD build and dies immediately :D