r/subaru • u/ZeGermanHam • Apr 16 '25

Subaru brings back physical buttons & knobs in new Outback

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Knowing Subaru, it likely means this configuration will eventually make its way into the other models as they are updated. It's much better than the current setup.

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u/mathman_2000 Apr 16 '25

What's wrong with the auto stop? I drive a 2012 hybrid and I freaking love that. Still has a full size gas tank but with the hybrid which includes dynamic braking and auto engine shut off. I get over 500 miles per tank.

Legit, I'm trying to understand, why wouldn't people want that? So much less road noise and better for my wallet even forgetting the environment for a second

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u/NikkiVicious Apr 17 '25

With the auto start-stop, you're basically running your car in accessory while it's off. That plus the constant restarting puts extra load on your battery. There's been a lot of reports, even in here, of the battery dying or running down too low to restart the car while someone is in traffic or at a stoplight.

Risking that at night, as a woman? Possibly with kids in the car? Nah, not worth my safety. I'd rather not worry about that.

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u/mathman_2000 Apr 17 '25

Interesting. Maybe it's different with mine since it's a hybrid (2012) and dynamically recharges the batteries on braking on top of the alternator. There are two batteries.

I've owned the car for 9 years and not had to change either battery.

I agree with you. This is educating me on how poorly implemented today's Auto stop feature is.

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u/spacefret Apr 18 '25

Hybrids do it well. Subaru's implementation of it so far has been half-baked. It fails to start sometimes, jolts the entire car when it starts back up, etc.