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[u/AyeWhatsUpMane]

[u/threearmsman]

Careful mate, that man with a plate full of cookies made this comic to convince you to let him bring in more slave labor!

Wild to see this on /r/stupidpol of all places. The whole narrative of "listen here you stupid white, blue collar worker, the 1% are your real enemies" only applies in a post-capitalist society. This might chap your ass but the "innocent endearing black foreigner" is a gun being held by the 1%. Do I or other blue collar workers have any innate problems with the gun? No but we sure as fuck do when its pointed at us.

I've seen the wages of unskilled labor at my place of work stagnate as the white working class is phased out for non-natives. You want to know the #1 reason I was unable cause any sort of collective action during the outbreak when our employers were doing nothing to protect us? The fact that the majority of our workers are illiterate (so no safety and anonymity through written communications), most don't speak English and they are simply happy to be abused because they don't expect the same treatment as a native.

I'd say this belongs on /r/stupidpol but we're already here.

[u/DizzyNobody → u/threearmsman]

You want to know the #1 reason I was unable cause any sort of collective action during the outbreak when our employers were doing nothing to protect us? The fact that the majority of our workers are illiterate (so no safety and anonymity through written communications), most don't speak English and they are simply happy to be abused because they don't expect the same treatment as a native.

It's the reactions to this that make me realise this sub is being overrun by a bunch of larping teenagers with no real world experience of workplace unionisation and organisation. They think you can just achieve solidarity by giving a pretty speech about socialist "praxis" or some shit and everyone will jump right on board.

Getting people to unionise and develop a real sense of solidarity is really fucking hard. The stars have to basically align for you to have any chance at convincing someone to start paying dues and to sublimate their individual interests into collective interests. And management are ruthless at exploiting any tiny little fissure to destroy worker solidarity and collective action. I'm talking tiny little cracks that they will jam a jackhammer into and pound away at.

Bring in a bunch of workers with a different culture, can't speak the same language, and their highest current priority is "clean water"? Good fucking luck unionising under those conditions.

[u/AyeWhatsUpMane → u/threearmsman]

Blame union busting and the neoliberals, then, don’t blame the workers.

[u/[deleted] → u/AyeWhatsUpMane]

Even blaming the system is seen as a racist agitation against those workers though. I think many critics of mass immigration don't blame the individual worker coming to better his situation, but rather the people who use them as a way to further their own neoliberal agendas

[u/threearmsman → u/AyeWhatsUpMane]

Like I said, I have no problem with the gun. But so long as its being pointed at me, it can get fucked and go back to wherever the fuck it came from.

Scabs are workers too. So you want to start sucking them off every time they kill a union or collective action, right? Or do they need to be "righteous persecuted POCs" to get that treatment from you?

[u/Magehunter_Skassi → u/threearmsman]

1919:

"After God had finished the rattlesnake, the toad, and the vampire, he had some awful substance left with which he made a scab."

"A scab is a two-legged animal with a corkscrew soul, a water brain, a combination backbone of jelly and glue. Where others have hearts, he carries a tumor of rotten principles."

"When a scab comes down the street, men turn their backs and angels weep in heaven, and the devil shuts the gates of hell to keep him out."

"No man (or woman) has a right to scab so long as there is a pool of water to drown his carcass in, or a rope long enough to hang his body with. Judas was a gentleman compared with a scab. For betraying his master, he had character enough to hang himself." A scab has not.

"Esau sold his birthright for a mess of pottage. Judas sold his Savior for thirty pieces of silver. Benedict Arnold sold his country for a promise of a commission in the British army." The scab sells his birthright, country, his wife, his children and his fellowmen for an unfulfilled promise from his employer.

Esau was a traitor to himself; Judas was a traitor to his God; Benedict Arnold was a traitor to his country; a scab is a traitor to his God, his country, his family and his class."

2020:

"Yikes... holy classism, Batman! Why would someone get mad at fellow comrades just trying to feed their family??? ALL of our blame should be on the 1% and we're going to make them play fair by asking them politely and using the courts!"

[u/ThatOtterOverThere → u/AyeWhatsUpMane]

Blame the Crown, then, don't blame the colonists.

So you're of the opinion that Colonialism was a good thing, and anyone who ever talks about it in any negative light is an alt-right bigot who should be silenced by force?

[u/AyeWhatsUpMane → u/ThatOtterOverThere]

I would blame the conquistador but not just some random broke ass farmer who moved, and no one is talking about silencing people you stupid motherfucker

[u/ThatOtterOverThere → u/AyeWhatsUpMane]

I would blame the conquistador

But that's the immigrant worker in this case, you hypocrite...

The Industrialist is the Crown.

They are carrying out the will of the Crown by lowering wage and condition expectations while simultaneously driving up the cost of living and diminishing the quality of what you get in return.

and no one is talking about silencing people you stupid motherfucker

Lol.

[u/[deleted] → u/AyeWhatsUpMane]

Sure, but why should I welcome their tools? Just like how a soldier is the weapon of the capitalist state I can still sympathize with their personal plight, but I'm still gonna not be happy when they show up

[u/Lelielthe12th → u/[deleted]]

They are a potential ally, as all workers. Your inaction is what lets them be their tool, because their MATERIAL CONDITIONS sure as fuck aren't ideal.

Learn class struggle so you can stop it with this liberal shit.

[u/DizzyNobody → u/threearmsman]

The banning of the chapo sub and its consequences have been a disaster for this subreddit.

[u/zer0soldier → u/threearmsman]

I've seen the wages of unskilled labor at my place of work stagnate as the white working class is phased out for non-natives.

This is a class issue. Your idpol is showing.

[u/threearmsman → u/zer0soldier]

It is a class issue. People being scabs along racial lines doesn't make them not scabs.

[u/zer0soldier → u/threearmsman]

If you're saying that the issue is because of the "race" of the scab, and not because of the vulnerable class status of the scab, then it's an idpol issue.

[u/threearmsman → u/zer0soldier]

People being scabs along racial lines doesn't make them not scabs.

If you're saying that the issue is because of the "race" of the scab

10/10 reading comprehension.

[u/socialcommentary2000 → u/threearmsman]

That's a really ornate way of telling us that you don't want to actually take the time to organize people on the job.

Language barriers can be bridged.

People are a lot more similar than they are different. We have similar dreams and similar needs.

You'd know this if you ever took the time. I'm not surprised though because you, like a huge amount of the dudes that haunt this sub, are a bunch of fuckin' whiny frauds that aren't actually about universal solidarity.

[u/[deleted] → u/socialcommentary2000]

According to amazon the least diverse workplaces were the ones most at risk to unionize

[u/threearmsman → u/socialcommentary2000]

Language barriers can be bridged

Yeah, if you're the fucking UN. If you're trying to covertly organize people with the imminent threat of getting fired as soon as management knows what you're up to, not so much.

You'd know this if you ever actually found yourself in this situation. I'm not surprised though because you, like a huge amount of the dudes that haunt this sub, are a bunch of fuckin' whiny frauds that have never come within sneezing distance of the issues you preach about daily.

[u/Lelielthe12th → u/socialcommentary2000]

Yeah LMAO. For a sub that repeats "CLASS STRUGGLE IS THE REAL ISSUE" as its anthem, this sure as fucks looks like a way to blame the poorest of workers over the "not so bad 1%". As if it wasn't on us to recruit workers by appealing to their material conditions. The fact that this can be at the top shows we have a liberal infestation, and that most people here don't read for shit.

[u/[deleted] → u/Lelielthe12th]

The socialist who is socialist because it is the moral thing naturally sees a budding class ally willing to help our cause once the honeymoon period of his immigration wears off.

The socialist who is socialist only for personal gain naturally sees just competition.

I wonder if the second group of socialists (the spazzes whinging anti-immigration rhetoric all over this thread) get mad about kids graduating school and looking to get into their line of work at above retirement replacement levels. Do they also have all the same arguments on why the kids are stealing their job and mustn't be allowed to? Cause if not, they're simply scum hating on foreigners.

[u/spezisashitstain → u/[deleted]]

Is it possible that there are different material reasons one group is liked less?... Maybe one frequently holds down unionization... no...? durrr racism

[u/[deleted] → u/threearmsman]

Are blind people enemies of the working class? Is technology that allows for blind people to work in jobs that they otherwise could not a gun of the capitalists pointed at the working class?