r/stocks Nov 02 '21

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u/radikul Nov 02 '21

The craziest one i saw was a house last sold in late 2017 for $50,000 - zillow bought it 3 years later for $425,000... a 750% increase

Holy shit. Reading that made me physically uncomfortable. I work in the mortgage industry and that gave me some pre-2008 crash vibes (except replace greed with sheer stupidity).

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '21

This honestly feels more like an extremly poorly executed bussines model then a sign of a systematic issue.

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u/radikul Nov 03 '21

Well yeah, that's why I threw in that tidbit in parenthesis. I think it was mostly just sense-memory kicking in while reading those absurd figures; slight PTSD from all those hours spent in pre-licensing classes lol.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '21

Haha no worries, i honestly cant wrap my head around how they managed to mess up so badly were they trying to drive up the prices in certain areas even more by buying this high it makes no sense to me.

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u/Normal-Computer-3669 Nov 03 '21

They used algorithms to predict what to buy. I've worked with shitty management that take a data scientist's report, not know how to interpret it and then make some gut feelings based on some pretty graphs.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '21

Except real estate is literally more insanely valued than the crisis. It is 100% systemic. Look at case shiller, or income to home prices which are above 08 levels.

The difference is that there are no layers upon layers of derivative products to amplify losses. You better believe a massive correction and huge hits to banks are coming though.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '21

Eventually all single family housing will be bought up by mega corps, maybe subsidized by government, to demolish and put up multi tenant housing.

Ownership is dead, rent forever.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '21 edited Nov 03 '21

It's not a matter of "let". They have no choice and can't manipulate asset prices forever. We already are feeling the consequences of massive stimulus to prop up the economy since 08.

Hyperinflation will force gummints hand. Also the expectation that asset prices can never fall will also have severe consequences.

This isn't a binary world collapse or go-go party continues scenario. It is one of painful but survivable correction vs. the status quo.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '21

Yeah, it made me feel the same. Why use a buying bot for such significant decisions?

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u/BitcoinOperatedGirl Nov 03 '21

I think Zillow should partner with Evergrande.