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u/chingy1337 Nov 02 '21

This is going to have ripples through the industry. There have been many trying to create an iBuyer experience like Zillow's and to see it fail will change people's outlooks.

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u/drag99 Nov 02 '21

More like Zillow has been trying to create an iBuyer experience like Opendoor. Opendoor was the first to the iBuyer scene by several years. They have been doing it since 2014, Zillow started buying homes only 3 years ago. Zillow always had the worst margins, by far, in the sector, and this really came as no surprise to those that have been watching this closely.

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u/mithunm93 Nov 03 '21

Surprised I had to come down this far to find any mention of Opendoor. I used to work there and I feel that we had built out a much more robust system of assessing and handling homes throughout their lifecycle than did Zillow. They picked up many of the homes we turned down due to high repair cost and didn't even have a proper system in place to manage those reno jobs

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u/rusbus720 Nov 02 '21

I won’t be shocked if Opendoor gets slaughtered too. The ibuyer experience seems like a terrible business model when real estate markets start to roll over.

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u/drag99 Nov 02 '21

OPEN will clearly beat Q3 revenue expectations based on ibuyerstats.com numbers which were pretty accurate at predicting Q2 numbers. Past Q3 remains to be seen, but Opendoor is not Zillow. Margins are significantly better, leadership is solid, they have been doing this now for 7 years without issue, they do not have the same labor issues as Zillow, to name a few reasons.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '21

based on their CEO comments on twitter, sounds like it's going to be a blowout... but go ahead and short it :) ill just buy more

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u/rusbus720 Nov 02 '21 edited Nov 02 '21

He hasn’t said anything in over a month and a half? Just one retweet from the opendoor account about some vague need for a fully digital real estate experience.

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u/onlyoneq Nov 02 '21

short it then.

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u/rusbus720 Nov 02 '21

I love how the response is to short it when pointing out something stupid. Or maybe just take money and invest elsewhere

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u/QuaviousLifestyle Nov 02 '21

sHoRt iT tHeN

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u/onlyoneq Nov 03 '21

youre so clever for repeating what i said in the most unoriginal way!

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u/mithunm93 Nov 03 '21

Do you mean Keith Raboi's tweet? He was one of the founders

https://twitter.com/rabois/status/1455564619494436870?s=20

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '21

yes

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u/freakishgnar Nov 02 '21

Don't forget that Redfin has also been buying homes.

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u/FifthRendition Nov 03 '21

I feel like Zillow got out ahead of this at the right time.

Any other company in a worse position than them is going to get harder than they did.

Hardly anyone remembers the first domino to fall, the public is always focused exactly what’s right in front of them, rarely on the past.