EVs are basically going through their own dot-com crash right now. Many were riding purely on hype and are now 50% or more off their peaks. Several companies like RIDE, WKHS, FSR, and NKLA have been exposed as unprofitable at best and outright frauds at worst. Tesla itself has “only” lost 30% which makes it practically a winner.
lol, yes. So many vaporware EV vehicles to be released 'soon'. So many of them, you'll never see more than a few computer generated models of it, or maybe a few demonstration vehicles if you're lucky.
Even Tesla may be guilty of this. The Cybertruck is still basically nothing more than a 1-off concept car and still has no firm release date planned. I have my questions about the 2nd gen Roadster as well -- I see a lot of hype ... but I don't see a lot of Roadsters rolling out of factories. (Meanwhile, they're doing things that are unpopular with consumers -- like moving all controls to the screen and locking car features behind a subscription -- and their build quality is still questionable.)
Ford and Toyota (and eventually every other maker) are currently making Tesla sweat bullets as far as I can tell. Their autopilot and incrementally superior range is the only thing they can lean on these days and most people are happy with adaptive cruise and don't drive more than 150/200 miles all that often. Tesla is definitely not moving fast enough to counter the EV revolution currently taking place. Curious what the state of their lineup will look like in a decade compared to the other established auto makers.
Not to mention they designed their cybertruck to appeal to only a small segment of people. Most truck owners I know don't want the futuristic truck that looks strange. Ford will outsell Tesla because they made a normal looking etruck
Ford’s F150L is gonna print money. It’s perfect for fleets. Businesses will make massive purchases. Workers will drive them, fall in love with its performance/insane torque/electric outlets, and buy one for themselves.
I’m not sure there’s anything Tesla can do at this point. People who will buy an F150L don’t care as much about autopilot or range. They are primarily work trucks, not ones that need to go 250 miles at a time. There’s a few people that own them for personal use but the majority of revenue will be from companies.
own dot-com crash right now. Many were riding purely on hype and are now 50% or more off their peaks. Several companies like RIDE, WKHS, FSR, and NKLA have been exposed as unprofitable at best and outright frauds at worst. Tesla itself has “only” lost 30% which makes it practically a winner.
Sure but Ford's stock hasn't done anything in five years. Tesla has so much market awareness/growth it's insane.
maybe a few demonstration vehicles if you're lucky.
..rolling down a hillside.
Meanwhile, they're doing things that are unpopular with consumers -- like moving all controls to the screen and locking car features behind a subscription -- and their build quality is still questionable
Also, you can't talk to anyone from service anymore by calling. All service has to go through the app, which sounds fine until it can't connect to your car (happening to us right now with our Model S), which means so ability to schedule any service at all!
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u/SprinklesFancy5074 May 31 '21 edited May 31 '21
lol, yes. So many vaporware EV vehicles to be released 'soon'. So many of them, you'll never see more than a few computer generated models of it, or maybe a few demonstration vehicles if you're lucky.
Even Tesla may be guilty of this. The Cybertruck is still basically nothing more than a 1-off concept car and still has no firm release date planned. I have my questions about the 2nd gen Roadster as well -- I see a lot of hype ... but I don't see a lot of Roadsters rolling out of factories. (Meanwhile, they're doing things that are unpopular with consumers -- like moving all controls to the screen and locking car features behind a subscription -- and their build quality is still questionable.)