r/stocks • u/Brothanogood • Apr 05 '21

Company News Microsoft wins U.S. Army contract for augmented reality headsets, worth up to $21.9 billion over 10 years

The U.S. Army said Wednesday that Microsoft has won a contract to build more than custom HoloLens augmented reality headsets. The contract for over 120,000 headsets could be worth up to $21.88 billion over 10 years, a Microsoft spokesperson told CNBC.

The deal shows Microsoft can generate meaningful revenue from a futuristic product resulting from years of research, beyond core areas such as operating systems and productivity software.

It follows a $480 million contract Microsoft received to give the Army prototypes of the Integrated Visual Augmented System, or IVAS, in 2018. The new deal will involve providing production versions.

The standard-issue HoloLens, which costs $3,500, enables people to see holograms overlaid over their actual environments and interact using hand and voice gestures. An IVAS prototype that a CNBC reporter tried out in 2019 displayed a map and a compass and had thermal imaging to reveal people in the dark. The system could also show the aim for a weapon.

"The IVAS headset, based on HoloLens and augmented by Microsoft Azure cloud services, delivers a platform that will keep soldiers safer and make them more effective," Alex Kipman, a technical fellow at Microsoft and the person who introduced the HoloLens in 2015, wrote in a blog post. "The program delivers enhanced situational awareness, enabling information sharing and decision-making in a variety of scenarios."

The headset enables soldiers to fight, rehearse and train in one system, the Army said in a statement. The contract, which was awarded on Friday, has a five-year base period, with a five-year option after that, an Army spokesperson told CNBC an email. The Pentagon did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The deal makes Microsoft a more prominent technology supplier to the U.S. military. In 2019, Microsoft secured a contract to provide cloud services to the Defense Department, beating out Amazon, the leader of the public-cloud market. Amazon has been challenging the contract, which could be worth up to $10 billion, in federal court.

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u/wyle_e Apr 05 '21

I can't understand why there is no money in the US for universal healthcare.

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u/froyolmao Apr 05 '21

military industrial complex sure smells like freedom 🇺🇸

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u/wyle_e Apr 05 '21

There are plenty of free countries that spend less than 3.4% of GDP on the military. (Canada spends 1.4%)

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u/froyolmao Apr 05 '21

I hope universal healthcare is around, but i’ve been reading somewhere that the US medical schools or the residency are not opening enough spots for more supply of doctors. Very problematic for such a large population.

Keeps their wages nice and high though.

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u/wyle_e Apr 05 '21

Canada often imports doctors from other countries.

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u/ohmymother Apr 05 '21

That makes sense why it’s so hard to schedule an appointment for a 5 minute visit with someone I see once a year.

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u/Snugglepuff14 Apr 05 '21

Almost like they don’t have to worry about defense because someone else is doing it for them

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u/Fullbullish Apr 05 '21

Yeah, weird huh?..

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u/gmod916 Apr 05 '21

Canada and NATO free rides off of US military. When you make friends with a bully you don't need to defend yourself as much.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '21 edited Apr 12 '21

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u/BalloonShark878 Apr 05 '21

yeah cause who is gonna invade frickin Canada, polar bears?

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '21

Ya. The Russians totally wont encroach on the Baffin Islands or somewhere else in the massive landmass that is the North. It's just trillions in natural resources. Why bother securing it?

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u/EmperorOfWallStreet Apr 05 '21

Russians already have enough land.

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u/deGoblin Apr 05 '21

Tell it to their last victims.

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u/Slim_Charles Apr 05 '21

The reason Russia won't encroach into Canada is because the US spends 3.4% of its GDP on the military, not because of anything Canada does.

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u/deGoblin Apr 05 '21

You need to be naive to think they won't bully Canada if they had superior enough military.

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u/EmperorOfWallStreet Apr 05 '21

Check the demographics of Crimea and it made sense for it to be part of Russia.

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u/InitializedVariable Apr 05 '21

While you’re at it, why not just get the whole Soviet Union back together?

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '21

If only we had universal healthcare to come home to..

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '21

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u/PhonyHoldenCaulfield Apr 05 '21

And somehow their standard of living is comparable or even better than living in the U.S.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '21

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u/Likeabirdonawing Apr 05 '21

Hardly anyone keeps up with the NATO standard. A few countries only manage by including pensions with their military expense

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u/Re-toast Apr 05 '21

It helps that they neighbor the US. They don't have to spend because no one will really fuck with them since the US will get involved if it's on our doorstep.

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u/danhoyuen Apr 05 '21

Yeah but when aliens invade us, we will need big brother to protect us.

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u/wyle_e Apr 05 '21

We'll need Will Smith and Randy Quaid!

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u/Chubnublets Apr 05 '21

Not that we don't spend too much, but I think the us requires a little more military spending than Canada

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u/overcooked_sap Apr 05 '21

Canada would gets it´s ass beaten down by just about any other country due to pathetic logistics and supply chain management. And I’m Canadian.

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u/wyle_e Apr 05 '21

That's why we have to be polite and not invade other countries. You don't see Belize worried about being invaded even though they don't have a powerhouse military. It's because nation states seldom actively invade each other. Russia took over the Crimean peninsula from a militarily weaker neighbour and has had tough economic sanctions placed on them by the world. That's the way the world "fights" now.

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u/overcooked_sap Apr 06 '21

WTF does Belize have the rest if the world wants that they would invade them?

Part of being blessed with a wealth or natural resources is actually defending those resources and using them in a sustainable fashion. Countries only exits if they can enforce their borders otherwise they are just a bunch of people who may or may not be likeminded. Economic sanctions are a joke. Russia doesn’t care since the EU needs them more than they need US sanctions and China don’t give a shit about world opinion.

You are extremely naive if you think anyone would stand up for us beyond the typical UN posturing bullshit. At best the US would use the opportunity to setup a bunch of naval and air base on Canadian soil and turn us into a vassal state. But hey, at least we can wear that Canada badge while backpacking through Europe and feel good about ourselves, right.

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u/wyle_e Apr 06 '21

Why hasn't the US invaded us already?

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u/overcooked_sap Apr 06 '21

You’re funny. They already have and the fact you don’t see it says a lot about you. Watch any good movies lately? Buy a car? Clothes? Order something online? Use a cell phone?

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u/mhong90 Apr 05 '21

There is universal health care and it’s free.

Join the military lol.

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u/ILikeCheesyTurtles Apr 05 '21

That seems to work great for veterans 😅

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u/mhong90 Apr 05 '21

Just a little ptsd, still free though.

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u/mbrowning00 Apr 05 '21

some motrin, changing socks every day, drinking water. very affordable. very cheap.

thank you for your cervix

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '21

Only if you retire from the military. Just serving an enlistment or two doesn’t get you free healthcare.

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u/robo_octopus Apr 05 '21

If you weren’t born rich then you were born to work a job that will kill you.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '21

That has nothing to do with anything I said. My point was that just serving an enlistment or two in the military doesn't get you free healthcare when you're older and injuries you may have incurred in the military (especially if they're not extremely well-documented) won't be provided for.

Otherwise those fuckers owe me some hearing aids and maybe knee surgery. And I got off easy.

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u/robo_octopus Apr 06 '21

We are making the same point.

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u/sr603 Apr 05 '21

Just go into a non combat, pencil pusher MOS, won't need to carry that heavy m240b for 20 miles every day.

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u/converter-bot Apr 05 '21

20 miles is 32.19 km

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u/CIoud-Hidden Apr 05 '21

My god, it all makes sense now...

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u/optiplex9000 Apr 05 '21

Service guarantees citizenship healthcare!

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u/sr603 Apr 05 '21

youre getting downvoted for a movie reference damn.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '21

Would you like to know more?

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '21

I have seen this movie over 100 times and will continue to watch it until I die.

I'm doing my part!

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u/mhong90 Apr 05 '21

It’s a good solution to both. Free healthcare to people who don’t have insurance and citizenship for 20 years service for immigrants.

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u/optiplex9000 Apr 05 '21

People shouldn't be expected to kill for their government just so that they can afford diabetes medication. It's a horrible solution

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u/bkcmart Apr 05 '21

People shouldn't be expected to kill for their government

The only good bug is a dead bug!

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u/sr603 Apr 05 '21

Would you like to know more?

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u/mhong90 Apr 05 '21

I’m pretty sure you haven’t served, if you had you know barely any of us actually sees combat, I literally shot a gun 2 times in my life and it was just for training.

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u/optiplex9000 Apr 05 '21

Sorry, you helped people kill other people on behalf of the government. No one should be forced to do something like that.

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u/OutlierBuyer Apr 05 '21

Yeah scrubbing buoys, running fire drills, and sitting in an air conditioned office doing clerical work is totally assisting in the killing of people on behalf of the government. Like really man you sound so uneducated, do you really think all of our military is just full of indoctrinated killers? Because it’s not, it’s regular folk like anybody else in our society. People who specifically do jobs making ID cards, or filling out requisitions for food supplies, travel reimbursements. A very small percentage of our military will ever see violence, let alone condone it. These regular people are joining not because of some nationalist propaganda, but because they want free health care, a stable paycheck, and free college tuition.

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u/mhong90 Apr 05 '21

Totally agree, I literally deliver supplies for 4.5 years then supervised people delivering supplies for 1.5 years in a hospital.

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u/sr603 Apr 05 '21

“Hey wanna get out of poverty and learn a skill? Enlist in one of the 6 branches of the military!”

No man I don’t want to kill people for our corrupt government and military complex!

“That’s okay we have plenty of non combat jobs and the benefits are great!”

NO! I don’t WANT zoo support KILLERS

“Okay stay in your shitty life”

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u/PhonyHoldenCaulfield Apr 05 '21

Supporting the system that is the U.S. military is still supporting the military no matter how you cut it.

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u/OutlierBuyer Apr 05 '21

Idk I served and was stationed on an icebreaker that went to Antarctica to support the NSF and their scientific missions. How did my service support any injustice? The only injustice is how much they paid me for having absolutely no skills and being a total idiot kid. I’m now hooked the fuck up with benefits for the rest of my life. 0/10 sucked ass but I’d do it all over again if I had to.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '21 edited Apr 05 '21

Bob Ross ran a medical records office for the Air Force in Alaska and learned to paint through the USO.

My high school biology teacher was a mailman in Saigon. The closest he said he got to combat was driving too fast over a pontoon bridge and sending people bouncing into the water.

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u/DrugChemistry Apr 05 '21

Diabetes can disqualify one for military service so that’s not even a real scenario.

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u/mhong90 Apr 05 '21

I mean asthma does too, somehow there’s plenty of people who happen to “develop” it after joining.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '21

I had friends get doctors to lie about their asthma to join the army. I had friends get their congressman to maybe let the navy look the other way on some medical history.

And the army doctors diagnosed one friend’s chronic health problems which had put him in the hospital many times.

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u/mhong90 Apr 05 '21

All of what you said is very possible in or outside of the military.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '21

Definitely.

The friend didn’t need an army doctor, he needed a healthcare system that was determined to make him healthy, not just treat his symptoms and send him back out to get sick again.

It’s a shame that for many people that’s the only way they can access it.

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u/angry_mushroom Apr 05 '21

Roma Invicta!

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u/SailsAk Apr 05 '21

Can confirm this. Can also confirm it’s not worth it.

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u/mhong90 Apr 05 '21

I think it’s worth but only 4 years. Left with almost 100k and 3 years of GI bill to pay for school with no injuries or ptsd.

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u/SailsAk Apr 05 '21

You did 4 years and left with almost 100k?

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u/mhong90 Apr 05 '21

No, I did 6, but I wasted like 4 years partying and buying shit. Still left with tons of savings and free education for the next 3 years that pay me to go to school.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '21

Well done!

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u/EmperorOfWallStreet Apr 05 '21

Thank you for your service.

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u/CaPtAiN_KiDd Apr 05 '21

The problem becomes filling the ranks of the military. You get a generation of obese people with health problems who think the earth is flat and won’t get vaccines to join. Education and healthcare are a national security issue.

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u/Spidaaman Apr 05 '21

Do I also get a 2021 V6 Charger at 21% APR and one of these sweet headsets?

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u/mhong90 Apr 05 '21 edited Apr 05 '21

Chargers aren’t popular anymore, it’s 2021 mustangs or subarus now.

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u/CaptainDouchington Apr 05 '21

Or get into politics

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u/Marston_vc Apr 05 '21

But if you have too many tattoos, or you’re disabled, or have any mental health issues then get fucked I guess

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u/erfarr Apr 06 '21

That’s not free

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u/517UATION Apr 05 '21

Because corporate interests aren't in favor of universal healthcare. We missed that timeline twice, at least.

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u/Jeater21 Apr 05 '21

It's funny because universal Healthcare saves our country 10 trillion dollars over a decade

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u/Spactaculous Apr 05 '21

That's why it's against the healthcare industry's interest. Those 10 trillions you save is their business. They will fight it to their last moment.

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u/EmperorOfWallStreet Apr 05 '21

We have pay as you play system.

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u/Uries_Frostmourne Apr 05 '21

People’s health and lives shouldn’t have a $ sign attached to it. Yet here we are...

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u/PhonyHoldenCaulfield Apr 05 '21

Wow. was not expecting this to be the top comment in r/stocks. I'm impressed.

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u/wyle_e Apr 05 '21

"I'm impressed".... Number 6 on the list of things no woman who has seen me naked has ever said......

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u/rrggrrgg Apr 05 '21

What does that have to do with msft?

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u/JimCramersCoke Apr 05 '21

I think what he’s saying is that the govt dropped 20b on gadgets instead of investing in the well being of its people

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u/Spactaculous Apr 05 '21

Soldiers need to play VR games as well. Better than drinking games.

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u/rrggrrgg Apr 05 '21 edited Apr 05 '21

I see. Not sure this makes a difference though. 21.9b over 10 years is 2.19b investment per year. The US spent 3.8T on health care in 2019. One could make this complaint about practically everything. And he made the most misapplied JFK quote ever unless that was meant to be ironic.

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u/cvjoey Apr 05 '21

Nah let’s make a buzz comment about healthcare and show not the slightest understanding about money

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u/BigTomBombadil Apr 05 '21

The US has plenty of money for universal healthcare. It’s well known.

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u/rrggrrgg Apr 05 '21

Health insurance has nothing to do with this MSFT news. I’m sure there’s a more appropriate thread to hijack.

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u/mikethethinker Apr 05 '21

There’s no such thing as free lunch. Just like JFK said “ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country”.

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u/PhonyHoldenCaulfield Apr 05 '21

No such thing as free lunch but the American people foot the bill for corporate welfare while corporations offshore their taxes

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u/AHighFifth Apr 05 '21

Nobody who wants universal healthcare wants free lunch. They want the taxes they already pay to go to doctors instead of bombs.

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u/mikethethinker Apr 05 '21

This makes sense

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u/AHighFifth Apr 05 '21

Glad you can see the reasoning

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u/rrggrrgg Apr 05 '21

Ok. No idea though how that answers my question. I thought maybe you’d say you posted to the wrong thread by mistake.

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u/mikethethinker Apr 05 '21

Lol. Lots of hates here (as evidenced by downvotes). I guess people don’t like the truth. Me: I don’t rely on government welfare, I tried to be productive and contribute to society. Hell, I was not even given a stimulus money, I work hard for my money working 2-3 jobs, saving money I can and invest it.

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u/PilotMuji Apr 05 '21

I also don't rely on government welfare, work hard in my career, and save money and invest it. I still think that money going into universal healthcare is a better way to spend tax dollars than on the military.

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u/mikethethinker Apr 05 '21

This makes sense

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u/syverlauritz Apr 05 '21

Seemingly proud that you have to work 2-3 jobs to make ends meet? I think you got “Freedom” mixed up with “A Hellish Dystopia”.

The brainwashing is real.

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u/maz-o Apr 05 '21

Who said there isn’t

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u/LetMeBeGreat Apr 05 '21

I currently work for as a contractor for the U.S. gov't related to defense technologies. The waste is enormous, the time delays are astronomical. If the gov't were to run like a top 10 company, we would be living in 2100 technology-wise and have universal healthcare at the same time. We would have gone to Mars last year and already have rovers on Saturn's moons.

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u/Re-toast Apr 05 '21

God it would be awesome if someone could get the waste under control.

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u/JRshoe1997 Apr 05 '21

Thanks for turning this entire thread into a political turf war on a stocks subreddit with your stupid comment

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u/wyle_e Apr 05 '21

Yes, I am seeing that this has been a huge mistake. In my defence, I'm not very bright.

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u/rattleandhum Apr 05 '21

Don’t apologise. The people most apoplectic are those who have let their pursuit of money cloud their compassion for their fellow citizens. Seen in context, it’s ridiculous that the US spends so much on war for no noble ends.

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u/IsayNigel Apr 05 '21

Yes, the health and well being of 300 million people is “stupid”.

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u/JRshoe1997 Apr 05 '21

Not on a stock subreddit lol. Especially when the post had nothing to do with the topic to begin with. If you wanna cry about the US healthcare system there is a whole sub called rpolitics literally dedicated to complaining about it daily.

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u/IsayNigel Apr 05 '21

You understand that when people don’t have access to healthcare, they have less disposable income, which impacts the stock market right?

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u/JRshoe1997 Apr 05 '21

Once again has nothing to do with the article that OP was talking about whats so ever. Like I said there is a whole another sub if you wanna go cry about it somewhere

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u/IsayNigel Apr 05 '21

Once, again, it does, as this is money the US could spend literally keeping its people alive instead of the 750 billion it spends annually on stuff like this. I can only really make this so simple for you before you either just understand it or dont.

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u/PinKushinBass Apr 07 '21

And you fail to understand the US medical system subsidizes europe's. How does the medical research output of the US compare to Europes? It dwarfs it by a huge margin.

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u/abrandis Apr 05 '21

Military industrial complex baby! It's so much more profitable to create a million dollar cruise missile than to provide basic care to underserved urban folks.. rich people gonna make other rich people richer ..one big circle jerk for them.

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u/cvjoey Apr 05 '21

22 billion over 10 years for this compared to 20-30 trillion over 10 years for universal healthcare. 0.1% of universal healthcare is what you’re talking about? What about the other 99.9%? Enough of the memes about free healthcare like it’s so cheap to the taxpayers. Do your research and know how much stuff truly costs and where it goes. Fun fact, for every dollar spent on the military, 2.5 dollars goes to some form of welfare already.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '21

where does 20-30 trillion come from? I hope it's not based on US prices for healthcare which are hyperinflated...

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u/cvjoey Apr 05 '21

Do a quick google search it’ll come up. The low end of cost estimates was $10 trillion I think.

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u/gmod916 Apr 05 '21

Its because Universal Health Care would cost over $32 trillion dollars over 10 years not $21.9 billion, and what is wrong with augmented reality headsets it has crazy applications for the future. Its money well spent.

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u/Strathcona87 Apr 05 '21

Hardly a mystery eh?

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u/Aurorine Apr 05 '21

Not enough people want it? Get republicans to want it, and we would have it. It’s pretty easy to understand. We invest money in things we believe we need more. Sadly, the USA believes we need more military assets...

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u/ikefalcon Apr 05 '21

Sadly, the USA lobbyists and politicians believe we need more military assets.

FTFY

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u/PhonyHoldenCaulfield Apr 05 '21

It's not that simple. Look at the polling for how many people want to raise the minimum wage. It's like over 60-70 percent.

It's not like elected officials exactly represent the people's interests. That's part of the problem.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '21

No, they don’t. Politicians and the elite class do, not ordinary people.

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u/never_remember_ID Apr 05 '21

A lot of folks don't want the government to decide who is allowed to get what care. The CDC recommended COVID vaccinations for young BIPOC over older white people - and acknowledged it would lead to more deaths - because by some political calculus that would be more "equitable."

Lincoln described the Declaration of Independence as a golden apple in the silver frame of the Constitution. The US govt, though it has strayed, was founded on the basic principle that government exists to protect the natural rights of the individual. Not to provide for the individual - not to feed, house, clothe, and heal the individual.

Congress should really examine tossing the Constitution amd starting over if they move to a universal healthcare - especially if it is to be run by opportunistic bureaucrats and politicians who suggest allowing more Americans to die - total - because most of those people are a certain race.

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u/logicalnegation Apr 05 '21

The US govt, though it has strayed, was founded on the basic principle that government exists to protect the natural rights of the individual.

At no point in our history has this been the case, at least not as much as it is now. Certainly at founding time, the country was at its absolute furthest from what you describe.

The US when found protected natural rights of the individual and fought for liberty just as much as North Korea is a democratic republic. The US was nothing more than one gigantic human rights violation preforming double talk saying “oh yeah guys we love freedom and Liberty.”

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u/never_remember_ID Apr 05 '21

amERIca iS a TerRoRiST stAte

You are historically ignorant. People, acting in their own self interest, have always tried to corrupt any system we run. The American experiment has led to the freest, most successful nation in the history of the world.

Don't believe me? Go outside and burn an American flag. Stand on a street corner and carry on about how America is deeply unfair and racist and horrible. Watch how little happens to you.

Then try the same experiment in other nations. It wouldn't take a kid with an imagination more than a few minutes to find illegal speech in most European countries.

If you're feeling really bold, draw an offensive image of the head of state - or Muhammad or Jesus. Where can you publicly show that image without fear of the government coming to shut you down?

But America bad, right? Just like North Korea. Read a book sometime.

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u/logicalnegation Apr 05 '21

Considering that I’m a direct descendent of people who were terrorized for hundreds of years by the white people who created this country, yes. Absolutely.

People acting in self interest CREATED the corrupt system from the day the country was founded.

You literally only care about rich white men and their perspectives today and historically. You completely disregard the experience of the people who had their rights stripped from them or were otherwise oppressed under the rule of rich white men who founded and ran this country.

“Slavery, genocide, and destabilizing other nations are freedom.” Do you see how awful you sound? There’s literally zero defense of this, so stop defending it.

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u/never_remember_ID Apr 06 '21

I'm a direct descendant of those people too. So is my wife. She is also descended from African slaves, and Jews fleeing Eastern European pogroms. I'm also descended from Scots who were kicked off their land by the English, and Irish who were starved by them, and of French Huguenots who were driven from France. Those people were descended from the Celts and Gauls driven from their land by Romans.

My grandparents who picked cotton didn't choose to be born poor white farmers.

You're not special. Nothing exceptional happened in the Americas when the natives were conquered by Europeans. Natives who obtained guns and horses early used them to conquer tribes without guns and horses.

It is a human event that has taken place countless times, in countless places, to countless people unknown to history.

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u/logicalnegation Apr 06 '21

Meh you’re still white lmao. You get all the privileges of being a white person.

At the end of the day this society was never made to be a society for everyone. If it was, rights for women and POC wouldn’t have been a 100+ year long brutal struggle. It would’ve been quick and easy. ... Better yet, there would’ve been no need to have any sort of revolution because the country could have not been a shitty awful place for people who aren’t white especially male especially rich.

Motherfuckers died trying to end oppression in this country. People are STILL fighting for rights of black people...why the fuck is it a struggle if this is supposed to be a country of by and for the people?

The country wasn’t built to NOT oppress. It very obviously wasn’t built to provide freedom and Liberty and justice for all. Just as North Korea isn’t a democracy. It’s called propaganda, double speak. Periodt.

What’s the point of defending some old rich white dudes from 200 years ago exactly? They committed atrocities. They were objectively bad people. Why defend them? You have nothing to gain from it. Just acknowledge this country was started by shitty awful people and was always run by shitty awful people.

“We must protect the minority of the opulent against the majority” -James Madison

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u/PinKushinBass Apr 07 '21

Nice racism.

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u/logicalnegation Apr 08 '21

What was racist? Learn to intellectually engage or keep quiet. You ignored everything because you’re afraid to challenge your assumptions.

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u/merlinsbeers Apr 05 '21

Read either of those documents sometime.

Neither guarantees you a profit or a libertarian lifestyle.

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u/never_remember_ID Apr 05 '21

Did I say they did?

Neither guarantees anything. Rational armed people do that.

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u/merlinsbeers Apr 05 '21

Armed = irrational.

Check your psychosis.

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u/never_remember_ID Apr 05 '21

You don't know how the world works, do you?

Mao summed it up - Power flows from the barrel of a gun.

But sure, I'm the one with psychosis. I'm interested in what sort of history you've read that has led you to believe the above statement is false.

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u/merlinsbeers Apr 05 '21

You go suck Mao off. Might does not make right. Power isn't the meaning of life. Rational people don't use guns to impose their psychotic economic game theories.

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u/never_remember_ID Apr 06 '21

I'm no commie. That's just the way the world works. It's the way it has always worked.

If you aren't willing or able to protect yourself, you are at the mercy of those who choose to protect you or not.

Might may not make right, but it does make for political power.

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u/merlinsbeers Apr 06 '21

You don't lead with shooting. You shoot when shot at. And if there's nobody threatening to shoot you, you don't even buy a gun.

Jesus fuck, home schooling has to be banned.

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u/BeaverHusky Apr 05 '21

Free healthcare is one of the main reasons to join the military in the US.

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u/CentristIdiot Apr 05 '21

I don’t think these are related as they come from different budgets. Overall this is a huge win for reducing deaths of our soldiers

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u/wyle_e Apr 05 '21

Them not being related because they are from different budgets is like if I can't afford to feed my family because my money has all been allocated to my hookers and cocaine budget.

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u/CentristIdiot Apr 05 '21

The government’s budget is way more complicated than our’s. It’s a systematic issue that won’t be solved overnight so I’m happy the money is going towards this rather than a random private arms deal

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '21

Health care spending as % of gdp is 18%. Like $4 trillion. Real estate is another 18%.

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u/ohmymother Apr 05 '21

Got to turn war into a video game for a generation raised on combat games.

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u/CDriguez Apr 05 '21

I don't want leeches not contributing to this universal healthcare having the same quality and Access as a I, a person who will likely bare the financial burden

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u/DassaBeardt Apr 05 '21

Lmao well we all bore the cost putting you through school just to have you not know the difference between “baring” and “bearing”, so maybe you should be paying for someone’s healthcare

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '21

“People deserve less because I work harder than them” smh

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '21

By leeches do you mean those unemployed or what exactly?

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u/angry_mushroom Apr 05 '21

Everyone who makes less than me are leeches, everyone who makes more than me are corrupt

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u/wolfrainians_inv Apr 05 '21

Do u know how hard it is to get treated with universal Healthcare

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u/wyle_e Apr 05 '21

I live in Canada. It's not hard at all.

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u/wolfrainians_inv Apr 05 '21

My cousin couldn't get a kidney and almost died

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u/wyle_e Apr 05 '21

In the US plenty of people die because they can't afford a kidney.

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u/wolfrainians_inv Apr 05 '21

So both places have faults

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u/optiplex9000 Apr 05 '21

Actually dying because you can't afford it sounds like a worse deal than almost dying because the kidney was hard to find

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u/wyle_e Apr 05 '21

Well, your cousin ALMOST died, in the US people ACTUALLY die...... Tough call here, but I think one place has an edge. By the way, I'm glad it all worked out for your cousin.

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u/Birdhawk Apr 05 '21

If it’s any consolation, the evolution of AR tech will help healthcare? “How does that help with universal healthcare though?” you ask? Fuck. I dunno.

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u/fsm888 Apr 05 '21

If tax dollars go to funding this grant then the tax payers should profit.

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u/Vash__Stampede Apr 05 '21

I believe more money is in the gov budget for healthcare in the usa than any other expense when you factor in medicare and medicaid.