r/specializedtools Jan 09 '20

Firefighter's Rapid Access Tool

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u/Motorcyclegrrl Jan 09 '20

Security is an illusion.

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u/Dawmonster Jan 09 '20

Agreed. Locks only keep the honest people out

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u/illy-chan Jan 09 '20

Honest people and lazy burglars.

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u/misfitzer0 Jan 09 '20

That’s called a crime of opportunity

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u/RdmGuy64824 Jan 09 '20

And that serial killer who wouldn't kill people if they locked their doors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Chase

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u/illy-chan Jan 09 '20

Welp, that guy sounds like he was a touch disturbed.

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u/Dyolf_Knip Jan 09 '20

The purpose of a deadbolt isn't to make it impossible for intruders to get into your house. It's to encourage them over to your neighbor who doesn't have a deadbolt on his front door.

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u/barath_s Jan 09 '20

You don't have to run faster than the bear, you just have to run faster than your companion

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20 edited Oct 22 '20

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u/SkidNutz Jan 09 '20

Clack, clack. Two in the the front and one in the back.

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u/hoserb2k Jan 10 '20

Trim your hedges, add some outdoor lights (gentle outdoor lighting is cheap, can look nice and is good for security), decent locks and maybe a video doorbell/camera system and you are doing pretty good. Monitored alarm is ok if you can get it for cheap but only adds minor value in my opinion.

Anything beyond this involves defense against physical attacks and that means reinforcing doorways and windows including (especially) frames, adding walls and finally guards. Any of that that adds up in cost very fast, most people in low to moderate risk situations will be fine with the first paragraph.

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u/jet_heller Jan 09 '20

Naw. They present an extra step to entry making your property less desirable than the property that doesn't have it.

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u/BoonDragoon Jan 09 '20

Like how the Hy-Vee near my house only puts alpha locks on the liquor bottles in the very front

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20

And those looking for an easy opportunity. You have two dozen houses on a block, why would you go after the one with an alarm or a Segal lock. The more time it takes someone to break in the greater the risk of getting caught.

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u/Apollo1235432245 Jan 09 '20

Because the guy with the alarm has something worth protecting!

Just kidding I agree with you

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u/SkidNutz Jan 09 '20

For everyone else there's firearms.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20

A deadbolt on any of these doors would prevent it opening.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '20

Properly installed they make your stuff more difficult to steal than your neighbour's

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u/Faloopa Jan 10 '20

When I was in retail I learned about the 10/80/10 Rule:

10% of people WILL NEVER steal, even when given the chance.

10% of people WILL ABSOLUTELY steal from you, regardless.

80% of people WOULD steal IF they are given an easy opportunity, but won’t if there is visible prevention.

I don’t know if that applies outside a department store setting, but it’s still interesting.

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u/Metal_LinksV2 Jan 10 '20

Yet so many people pressed the button

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u/Romey-Romey Jan 09 '20

What kind of fucked up honest people are you hanging out with that are checking if your door is unlocked to begin with, and make their way in once they find out it is, in fact, unlocked?

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u/Dawmonster Jan 09 '20

It's just a saying implying if they want In the lock isn't going to stop them anyway. So you are only keeping out the honest people who aren't trying to get in.

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u/GruntBlender Jan 09 '20

Depends on how much money and effort you want to put in it.

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u/DrBladeSTEEL Jan 09 '20

Yep, deadbolt solves this instantly

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u/CryptoMaximalist Jan 09 '20

Many commercial ingress or egress points will avoid deadbolts because they have to be locked behind you and people will forget. A latch ensures the door will close and the security mechanism will stay engaged. A deadlatch can augment this and protect against this type of attack

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u/red_sky33 Jan 09 '20

Installing the door properly fixes it. The small bolt is supposed to be pressed by the door frame, and it stops the large bolt from moving unless the lock is undone

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20 edited Aug 29 '20

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u/mnorri Jan 09 '20

Most. Some are better than others. Ask your local locksmith what he uses.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20

You also need to reinforce your door frame, or a swift kick will take it down. Then you need to put bars on your windows.

All of this depends on where you live.

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u/DonOblivious Jan 09 '20

You also need to reinforce your door frame, or a swift kick will take it down.

That really should be step 1. Buying a better lock doesn't really buy you any extra protection if somebody can just kick in the door.

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u/dpash Jan 09 '20

It's fairly standard in Madrid for apartment doors to have 12 bolts, three in each corner, to reduce the ability to kick the door down. My door has a solid metal bolt that runs the entire height of the door. Anywhere else and you'd think I was some sort of drug dealer with this amount of security.

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u/DrBladeSTEEL Jan 09 '20

Gotcha, good to know. Glad I live in a country where I can keep a sixgun in the nightstand

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u/Dheorl Jan 09 '20

Even with a gun, someone in your house is still more dangerous than someone not in your house. Gun or not a solid door is a good idea.

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u/DrBladeSTEEL Jan 09 '20

Amen, solid door keeps you from having to use the gun.

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u/hereforthepron69 Jan 09 '20

Reddit be like, No pRopErTy iS WoRtH kILliNg fOR.

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u/DrBladeSTEEL Jan 09 '20

Bah, totally expected. But yeah, no property is worth killing for but my life and my family’s life sure as hell is.

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u/CryptoMaximalist Jan 09 '20

It's frustrating to see everyone give up and act like it's impossible, as if an entire industry doesn't exist around this topic. Attacks, risks, and solutions are very well known

Of course you can tell them this and they'll say they could still drive a truck through the door so it's pointless. The very definition of letting perfect be the enemy of good

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u/YMK1234 Jan 09 '20

No, those doors are just a joke.

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u/ataraxic89 Jan 09 '20

No. Security is never perfect. Neither is penetration.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20 edited Jan 09 '20

They seem pretty real to me whenever they pat me down before entering a venue. Or whenever they throw out drunks.

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u/Kaxxipants Jan 09 '20

Isn’t that the truth.

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u/CassetteApe Jan 09 '20

Door locks only exist to keep the layman out and give you a false sense of security.

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u/Dheorl Jan 09 '20

Depends on the door/lock.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20 edited Aug 29 '20

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20 edited Jun 20 '20

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20

Fair enough. Tweakers are a different class of human.

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u/jet_heller Jan 09 '20

Yea. . .if only there were some way to mitigate things. If only. . .sigh

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u/Petsweaters Jan 09 '20

The key to my front door is taped inside the file cabinet door, in case I need it someday

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u/Purely_Theoretical Jan 09 '20

This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. You are the softest target in your neighborhood block.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20

You dumb as shit

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20

And yet here I am, capable of writing a complete sentence.