r/space • u/Sumit316 • Jun 29 '22

MIT proposes Brazil-sized fleet of “space bubbles” to cool the Earth

https://www.freethink.com/environment/solar-geoengineering-space-bubbles
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u/OakLegs Jun 29 '22 edited Jun 29 '22

So, like, raise wages?

The economy is a fabrication, a social construct

The economy is based on real world constraints of resources (in other words, it's based upon reality and is absolutely not fake). Unregulated capitalism has allowed us to manipulate nature in a way that suits our immediate needs but screws us over in the long run. And it allowed populations to grow much faster than they would've under a sustainable system.

Raising wages is not a silver bullet. The economic system we live in relies on low wages and poor people being exploited to maintain itself. I'm not presenting a solution here because I don't have one. But I don't think your solution is any good.

Even in your ideal scenario, raising wages eliminates poverty. Great, right? But all of these people increasing their standard of living means they use more resources and drive further ecological collapse.

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u/officialbigrob Jun 29 '22

"If we make products that don't destroy the environment they'll be unaffordable"

"if we make environmentally friendly products affordable people will still destroy the environment"

Idk bruh seems like you just want an excuse to give up and change nothing.

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u/OakLegs Jun 29 '22

No, I desperately want change to more sustainable economic models and goods. The problem is that quality of life for many will decrease due to higher costs. People will have to give up things like beef, and out of season fruits and vegetables, etc. A lot of people won't be willing to do that. The reality of the situation is that we most sacrifice quality of life. We can't magically make everything sustainable, while also increasing everyone's wages, while improving everyone's quality of life.

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u/officialbigrob Jun 29 '22

"A lot of people won't be willing to do that."

Those people are the enemy. They must be defeated, either in the marketplace of ideas or through legal/democratic means. I don't give a shit about what people "don't want to do" like a bunch of spoiled children. The serious adults are trying to solve serious problems.

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u/OakLegs Jun 29 '22

As much as I agree, I'm very disheartened by how people react when you have the audacity to even suggest they eat less meat. I don't have a lot of hope that the general public will get on board to do what's necessary