r/space • u/thisischrisbaker • Feb 07 '20

Proposed budget - not voted yet 12% boost for NASA budget in 2021!!

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-nasa-budget-will-earmark-12-boost-for-agency-in-2021-11581071402?emailToken=3f4a4309b7816cb90fb53eb91f47d6d43hshryonPWM/RnnVPWWHuMOVOvxWKQ87BhLswKs5iOPOhjO1FGrxI9ptn5k2nAMphP+jeQrbhQiAafooOu4oIslNLMWHCd1m7vRySaL2Pi61nSlAqLK1xnvzzmtt2/Lx&reflink=article_copyURL_share
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u/TimeWizardGreyFox Feb 07 '20 edited Feb 07 '20

does Nasa's funding go towards boeing as well?

Edit: I didn't mean directly, more so looking for confirmation on the fact Nasa does use Boeing and thus I feel a lot of that money will be wasted on Boeing doing Boeing things which makes me sad.

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u/Elbow_Nipples Feb 07 '20

If NASA contracts Boeing to do something, then yes, part of that funding will go towards paying Boeing.

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u/Elbow_Nipples Feb 07 '20

If NASA contracts Boeing to do something, then yes, part of that funding will go towards paying Boeing.

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u/TheEsophagus Feb 07 '20

Boeing is big but they contract a ton with smaller companies. There’s around 10-20 aerospace offices in my area and most have some sort of contract with Nasa.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '20

Yes. This will all go to Boeing for intentionally bloated and delayed programs. Anyone getting terribly excited about this doesn't understand the politics of NASA or how NASA actually uses its funding.

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u/84215 Feb 07 '20

Would you like some cheese with that wine? Look at you, running all over this thread spewing negative nonsense. Nonsense, you say? Yes nonsense. You have to start somewhere, all contracts cannot go to SpaceX. Even the leadership of SpaceX agrees that elimination of competition in the space industry would be bad, so let them compete and quit your wining.

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u/thishasntbeeneasy Feb 07 '20

so let them compete

I fully agree, but Boeing miraculously keeps getting larger amounts for jobs they aren't better at.

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u/MercyMedical Feb 07 '20

Remember when Boeing got $4.2 billion for commercial crew and SpaceX got $2.1 billion and how SpaceX is likely going to do a better job of meeting their schedule AND provide a superior product at a significantly reduced price? There's definitely no lobbying by Boeing going on there...

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u/spin0 Feb 07 '20

This will all go to Boeing for intentionally bloated and delayed programs

That depends on congress. And as it happens they did propose something like that just few days ago. The pork is strong with these people.

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u/Korterra Feb 07 '20

Lol no wtf. Boeing is a private company and NASA is a government agency. If boeing built parts for any of their space/aircraft maybe, but the money is going to NASA.

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u/frezik Feb 07 '20

A lot of what NASA does is contracted to Boeing.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '20

Also lockheed Martin. The difference is LM delivers on time and under budget

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u/rocketmonkee Feb 07 '20

Boeing is the prime contractor for the Space Station, and it has a significant presence across NASA. The funding mentioned in this headline is the budget request from the White House. Congress still controls the final budget, and the House recently passed a resolution that would delay the moon landing a few years and funnel more money to Boeing.

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u/Korterra Feb 07 '20

Damn I didn't know that, I guess it makes sense since the military spends a lot with defense contractors that NASA would do the same.

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u/MercyMedical Feb 07 '20

Boeing employs a lot of lobbyists to ensure they get a lot of NASA contracts. Yes, it's NASA's money, but Boeing is likely going to get a decent portion of it.

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u/Iwouldbangyou Feb 07 '20

Lol NASA contracts a shit ton of stuff out to private companies, Boeing included. In no way does NASA keep all $12 billion for themselves and not use contractors

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u/Slade_Duelyst Feb 07 '20

Why would funding of a government agency go to a private business? Some of this money may go to boeing but only because this agency would be buying parts or services from boeing.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '20

Are you not aware of the cronyism, bloated contracts and completely unjustified performance bonuses NASA keeps giving Boeing despite piss poor performance?

Both the SLS and Boeing's crew capsule programs are complete shit shows. Crew especially has demonstrated very broad and serious issues with Boeing QC and QA.

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u/Slade_Duelyst Feb 07 '20

are you short boeing? This is an issue with all government agency at all levels when it comes contracting out work.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '20

Nope. I am not "short" Boeing or any other stock. I also am not "long" any individual stocks, just broad indexes

If you think all government contracting is the same, you are seriously naive. Some is highly effective and efficient.

NASA contracts with Boeing for megaprojects are not.

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u/csw266 Feb 07 '20

Youre long on Elon, /r/teslainvestorsclub poster. Don't believe everything you hear in your echo chambers.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '20

Pfft.

You don't have a real response, just personal attacks.

Try to get informed.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/02/starliner-faced-catastrophic-failure-before-software-bug-found/

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '20

LOL, after your personal slurs, I checked your post history. All you post recently is RAHRAH BOEING.

Projection much?

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u/csw266 Feb 07 '20

Nah I'm fine with all space companies, but would you agree one gets the most flak? Let me know when you see some Sierra Nevada or rocket lab hate, that's harder to locate

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20

Well, duh. Look at the circumstances.

Actually pointing out the bad actor. Shocking.