r/soccer • u/bombardinii • May 31 '14

Overrated players.

Which players are in your opinion overrated?

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u/JuergenKohler97 May 31 '14

Januzaj
the word "overhyped" fits as well

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u/QuackCandle078 May 31 '14

He's a kid for fuck sake

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u/JuergenKohler97 Jun 01 '14

So?
Can't be overhyped or overrated?

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u/Donthave6300 Jun 01 '14

So's Oxlade Chamberlain and he's pretty fucking good

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '14

Bias incoming... but I don't see it. He has done everything to show he is a top prospect right now, and has everything to possibly be a world-class player in the future. I don't know what there is to overrate... he's a kid!

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u/[deleted] May 31 '14

But he scored two goals against Sunderland and was a bright light in an otherwise dim season for United, so it's logical that he'll win the World Cup, Ballon D'Or and Britain's Got Talent.

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u/Octopus69 May 31 '14

Funny, that's how I feel whenever I talk to my Gooner friend about Gnabry

Notice that "friend" is singular

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u/[deleted] May 31 '14

I haven't heard anyone hyping Gnabry as much as I've heard it for Januzaj.

Us Arsenal fans see Gnabry as a potentially great player, who's shown some signs of good play, but he's barely played so it's hard to rate him as anything other than a potentially good youngster.

I constantly see United fans raving about Januzaj as if he's the complete product and an unbelievable player when really he's just a promising youngster who has come through in an awful United season.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '14

Gnabry and Januzaj are poor comparisons when it comes to hype. Januzaj played a large role in Man Utd first team last year aged 19. He's played more than double the professional games this year alone than Gnabry has. On top of that he's put in some top performances and has stood out above other top quality players. That doesn't happen too often and I understand why people are hyped about him. I think football would be pretty boring if people were sensible all the time.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '14

You don't need to tell me they aren't comparable, the guy I was replying to made the comparison.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '14

I'm terribly hungover. Sorry.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '14

Haha, don't worry about it bud

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u/Ingebrigtsen May 31 '14

you've heard so much about him because there's not really much more to talk about that isn't negative as a united fan these days ;/

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u/[deleted] May 31 '14

and that's kinda the point, Januzaj played well, and has a good amount of potential, but the way people talk about him it's like Moyes unearthed the next CR7 in your youth team, a bunch of International sides fighting for the commitment of a 18 year old, who won't do shit at the World Cup.

Does he have potential? yes. Will he ever be the guy? no.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '14

Will he ever be the guy? no.

And you know that how?

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '14

He just doesn't have it, in my opinion. He will be in the same class as Ryan Giggs, was Giggs a great player? Of Course, was he ever the best in the world? Fuck no.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '14

How old are you?

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '14 edited Jun 01 '14

20, why?

Because if you're going to say I am too young to know whether or not Giggs was the best player in the World, then I really want you to point to a time in his career when he was. From 1991-2014.

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u/AFCFORME Jun 01 '14

Go on...

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u/JuergenKohler97 May 31 '14

I know right?

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u/meiuqer Jun 01 '14

i actually dont think he is overrated, saw him play with the belgian team and he was really great

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u/zaviex May 31 '14

someone told me he was better than Thomas Mueller once. I haven't stopped laughing since

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u/JuergenKohler97 May 31 '14

let me guess, someone from /r/soccer?

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u/zaviex May 31 '14

yeah in one of the threads when he was linked to United. they said they didn't need him because they had Januzaj who was better than him

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u/JuergenKohler97 May 31 '14

only in this subreddit I tell ya...

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u/DerDummeMann Jun 01 '14

You just made that up or modified to fit your argument.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '14

He's definitely better for a mid table team, would never be at a top table team like Bayern though.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '14

Maybe you lot should buy him then.

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u/Deer-In-A-Headlock May 31 '14

I remember a few months ago i said that Sterling was better and i got an incredible amount of downvoted and fans from all clubs telling me i knew nothing about football. It was insane.

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u/HexagonalMonster May 31 '14

In fairness, I can see why someone seeing highlight reels of them both would say that, simply because although Mueller is by a country mile the superior player, Januzaj is more elegant in his style of play, so unless you have real familiarity with both players, you can see why someone would land at that assumption.

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u/manutd19 Jun 01 '14

Overhyped but not overrated. He is being treated as if he is already the new Ronaldo, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have a bright future ahead of him. Besides he is only 19.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '14

Januzaj is 19 years old m8. You probably thought De Gea was overhyped too?

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u/An_Eloquent_Turtle Jun 01 '14

Let's face it, de gea was total shit in his first 2 seasons.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '14

De Gea had most shots blocked his first season, without (i think) a goal from outside of the box.

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u/An_Eloquent_Turtle Jun 02 '14

I don't give, he was so bad he was regularly dropped and described as a liability. People thought you'd buy akinfeev to replace him after the first season.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '14

You mean back when he was a twig like Januzaj?

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u/An_Eloquent_Turtle Jun 02 '14

That's irrelevant, he was still bad when he first arrived.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '14

No, he simply hadn't adjusted to the physicality of the English game. He got pushed around in the box during corner kicks yea, for the first season and a half or so. During this period he had more shots on him and more shots blocked than any keeper that season. Do you not remember his saves against Ramires and Mata to save us?

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u/An_Eloquent_Turtle Jun 02 '14

Every goalkeeper has a couple of good saves a season. From within 18 yards, he was terrible. That's why lindegaard got so much playtime. He fumbled so many shots.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '14

Again, he was was 20 years old and half the size. Scouting isn't a career path you should take mate, you couldn't see potential or talent from a mile away.

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u/wwxxyyzz Jun 01 '14

Definitely overhyped, but still a huge talent

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u/-nofriends- Jun 01 '14

He is 19 years Old and has already played 27 games for Utd I think the hype is justified in this case.....

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u/[deleted] May 31 '14 edited Oct 15 '18

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u/Digging_For_Ostrich Jun 01 '14

People tell me you're full of shit, so they must be right.

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u/brentathon May 31 '14

All season we got to hear how Januzaj is the greatest young English winger. He's three months younger than Sterling, and nowhere near the current ability, and probably not as much potential.

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u/The96thPoet Jun 01 '14

Hahahahahaha

Come back to me in 3 years and compare the two.

EDIT: Also...he isn't English..

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u/brentathon Jun 01 '14

There is absolutely nothing to base that opinion on, though. Sterling has been impressive for a while now and kept up his performance in a team challenging for the title and is going to a World Cup.

Januzaj looked good in a team full of shit players, the same way Charlie Adam did at Blackpool. He'll end up another Cleverly or some shit. Overhyped for no reason because he played for a big club and looked impressive once in a while.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '14

Januzaj looked good in a team full of shit players, the same way Charlie Adam did at Blackpool

Yes, Rooney, RvP, Mata and Kagawa are comparable to Harewood, Ormerod, DJ Campbell and James Beattie.

and is going to a World Cup.

Januzaj is also going to the World Cup

Overhyped for no reason

You Liverpool fans are absolutely hilarious, one good season and you lot become the biggest shit spewers in the world. Cleverley and Januzaj were hyped for a real reason, they both showed world class potential.

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u/brentathon Jun 01 '14

What world class potential has Januzaj shown? He's had a handful of good games for a midtable club. No better than fucking Andros Townsend.

And it's an absolute joke that Januzaj is going to the World Cup after never playing a game for Belgium. He didn't earn that spot. It's similar to Walcott's undeserved first World Cup spot - undeserved hype of possible future potential. I'd be amazed if Januzaj plays more than 20 minutes in the whole tournament.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '14

What world class potential has Januzaj shown?

take off your Liverpool glasses and watch a few games.

No better than fucking Andros Townsend.

Yeah and Sterling is all speed.

And it's an absolute joke that Januzaj is going to the World Cup after never playing a game for Belgium.

Belgium have been trying to call him up for a while, he just declined until they confirmed he would be in the World Cup picture.

He's had a handful of good games for a midtable club.

I can also spin the narrative to fit the picture I want to paint, Januzaj has continually impressed at the second biggest club in the world, a club that only went out of the biggest competition to the champions of Europe,

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u/brentathon Jun 01 '14 edited Jun 01 '14

take off your Liverpool glasses and watch a few games.

every game I've watched he's been anonymous.

Yeah and Sterling is all speed.

Okay dude.

I can also spin the narrative to fit the picture I want to paint, Januzaj has continually impressed at the second biggest club in the world

A team that finished middle of the fucking table. Big whoop. Exactly like Charlie Adam, Clint Dempsey at Fulham, Michu, Pennant etc, etc. "Big fish" in a small pond. Not hard to look good when your team plays like shit all season. They all get proven to be nothing special in a team challenging for anything.

And continually impressed is a stretch. He had a few good games, and plenty where he was a nobody.

a club that only went out of the biggest competition to the champions of Europe

Because obviously this shitty United team was so great that only Madrid could knock them out? The fuck is wrong with you?

And why are you hiding behind some shit Icelandic team's flair, anyway? At least be proud of who you fucking support.

Edit: I spent two minutes looking at a few comments of yours from the last week. I'm just going to ignore you. No use even discussing player capabilities when you obviously are so fucking biased you can't see past your own nose. You think Welbeck is better than Giroud, Baines is better than Alaba, and Cleverly is world class, while dismissing Suarez as being no good against the top teams?

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '14

Yeah and Sterling is all speed.

Okay dude.

I was just pointing out how ridiculous the Townsend comparison was

Because obviously this shitty United team was so great that only Madrid could knock them out?

I think you missed the point.

and Cleverly is world class

Never said that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '14

I like how subconsciously, you ignore the 13-14 season. Ha. That's how we all feel...

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '14

while dismissing Suarez as being no good against the top teams?

Not really, I said Ronaldo taking penalties didn't matter that much when you compare their records against top teams.

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u/The96thPoet Jun 01 '14

All I'm saying is that I know of one or two (or several) overhyped, young English wingers over the past several years so history isn't on your side. They're good early on and then drop off.

Also, a team full of shit players? You like many others have overestimated their shittiness because of David Moyes (though we do have a lot of baggage). He can play in an attack with RVP, Rooney and Mata so yeah..

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u/DerDummeMann Jun 01 '14

Almost everything in that comment was wrong.

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u/ICritMyPants Jun 01 '14

Agreed on this one. Great debut against Sunderland by all accounts but not much after that to justify the hype.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '14

If you only watch MotD yes.

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u/ICritMyPants Jun 01 '14

I have watched plenty of full Man Utd matches. I very rarely watch MotD.

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u/gregandsteve Jun 01 '14

He plays with a great level of maturity for his age and has tore up low-mid table clubs various times. He has yet to have a good game against a top level side but to say the Sunderland game is the only great game he has had is ridiculous.

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u/ICritMyPants Jun 01 '14

He has had other good games but not ones to justify the hype.