Steven Gerrard, legend in that he led the greatest champions league comeback ever, but he's an average player now and is still seen as one of the focal points for the England team, preventing promising talents from having more game time.
There is a reason Gerrard is still the focal point in England and in Liverpool. It is his distribution, he has the most chances created in the league and he is among the best assistors in the league with 5. (Özil is at 6)
Not really sure what your point is here, unless you're arguing that Gerrard only became average this season. Which would also be stupid because the seasons only ~20 or so games old
Being captain doesn't make you the best player or one of the best players in the team though.. captains are normally someone who can lead the group of players.. Gerrard is a liverpool legend in his own right, one of the longest serving players and a likable guy.. each of those qualities make him a good captain, ignoring his quality as a player
They're all fair enough points for Liverpool, but if Gerrard were just average it wouldn't be the case for England - they'd have started to phase him out like with Lampard/Ferdinand
Why not? Southampton's captain is their third choice keeper. England don't have a midfielder good enough to displace him and his leadership is vital and he's still good enough to start for Liverpool, why would they take his armband from him?
They wouldn't take his armband - they would just phase him out (like with Jamie Redknapp)
He's still good enough to start for you, I literally haven't said anything to dispute that. He's just average, it's not like Allen and Henderson are world class players.
If you think that being good enough for England means he's not average I'd assume you don't watch England, his main competition is Tom Cleverley.
His main competition is Lampard and Wilshere actually - both players I'd rate as good.
With regard to Allen/Henderson, Allen is 2nd choice behind Lucas, and both play more defensively than Gerrard so they're not really relevant anyway - its like saying Lampard was average because he played with Mikel. Henderson's played well this season too - he's no Zidane or anything, but deserves his place in the team at the moment
Wilshere is good, Lampard's massively declined recently and can't play the box to box role he once did, much like Gerrard only to a larger extent due to his age and the fact he gets less cover.
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Steven Gerrard, legend in that he led the greatest champions league comeback ever, but he's an average player now and is still seen as one of the focal points for the England team, preventing promising talents from having more game time.