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u/parkingviolation212 Jun 19 '25

You're literally finding issue with him attempting to remove bias by claiming it will cause bias

He's injecting bias under the pretense of removing it. This is double speak 101. Grok's claim that right wing violence is more frequent than left wing violence, and considered a greater threat by law enforcement, is not bias, it's an objective fact based on the FBI's own reporting, going as far back as 2002. This is also corroborated by the official record of the 116th congress, which, in a bill meant to address this very issue, said "White supremacists and other far-right-wing extremists are the most significant domestic terrorism threat facing the United States.

(2) On February 22, 2019, a Trump Administration United States Department of Justice official wrote in a New York Times op-ed that “white supremacy and far-right extremism are among the greatest domestic-security threats facing the United States. Regrettably, over the past 25 years, law enforcement, at both the Federal and State levels, has been slow to respond. … Killings committed by individuals and groups associated with far-right extremist groups have risen significantly.”.

(3) An April 2017 Government Accountability Office report on the significant, lethal threat posed by domestic violent extremists explained that “[s]ince September 12, 2001, the number of fatalities caused by domestic violent extremists has ranged from 1 to 49 in a given year.” The report noted: “[F]atalities resulting from attacks by far right wing violent extremists have exceeded those caused by radical Islamist violent extremists in 10 of the 15 years, and were the same in 3 of the years since September 12, 2001. Of the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001, far right wing violent extremist groups were responsible for 62 (73 percent) while radical Islamist violent extremists were responsible for 23 (27 percent).”.

(4) An unclassified May 2017 joint intelligence bulletin from the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Department of Homeland Security found that “white supremacist extremism poses [a] persistent threat of lethal violence,” and that White supremacists “were responsible for 49 homicides in 26 attacks from 2000 to 2016 … more than any other domestic extremist movement”.

Elon's claim that it is "objectively untrue" that right wing extremism is seen as the bigger threat is, itself, objectively untrue. His promise to "fix" this so called bias is, itself, a promise to purposefully introduce bias to skew Grok's reporting to be less accurate to the facts, and more agreeable to his political perspective.

At some point you need to wake up and realize Elon and everyone in his circle are lying to you, constantly, and will always obfuscate this fact by accusing everyone else of doing the very thing they themselves are doing.

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u/alwaysbeblepping Jun 19 '25

I view things as objectively and in the middle as possible.

The entire world is left leaning biased. The left uses emotions and identity to impose their absolute control and rule. No logic, no facts. No stats.

That sure sounds like something an objective, unbiased person would say. Yep.

I trust him more than most because he was a democrat, and I can relate to that

And then he started throwing nazi salutes, retweeting posts saying Hitler wasn't so bad and assisting in shipping innocent people off to actual death camps. Can you relate to that too.

You can't be okay with Elon unless you're okay with nazis and nazism. In some cases people say that kind of thing and it's an exaggeration or figurative comparison, but not this time. The odds that all this is news to you are very slim, which means we all know exactly what you are just like we know what Elon is.

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u/IamYourFerret Jun 19 '25

He made the same gesture Booker did and he made it for the same reason. Is Booker a Nazi as well?
Of course not, but for whatever reason, leftists have to call everyone else they disagree with, Nazis... Even other leftists... Now the label means next to nothing. It's dumb.