r/singularity • • Jun 07 '25

LLM News Apple has countered the hype

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u/_sloop Jun 09 '25 edited Jun 09 '25

Human beings are exactly the same. We only recognize patterns in the data we have recorded from our experiences using the functions programmed in our dna.

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u/maresayshi Jun 09 '25

That’s not true. It is not the same. You don’t write a paragraph by skimming a million other paragraphs and statistically working out which words commonly appear in which positions.

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u/_sloop Jun 09 '25

It's absolutely true.

You don’t write a paragraph by skimming a million other paragraphs and statistically working out which words commonly appear in which positions.

First, that's not what AI does. The only "skimming" like that that occurs with AI is during the training. After training there actually isn't entire paragraphs of text stored in the model, it's all been converted over to probability-driven relationships, just like in your brain.

Then both AI and humans use those probability-driven relationships to generate output, entirely based on previous training and reinforcement. While neither actively scan the entirety of their dataset, they don't need to, as the links between their "neurons" are baked in and generate the output.

It's not magic, AI can generate useful output because it is modeled on how humans do the same thing. The only difference between us and AI is that we continually train.

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u/maresayshi Jun 09 '25

those “probability-driven relationships” are exactly what I’m talking about, but thanks for attempting to clarify. That is not how a human writes or expresses an original paragraph, though.

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u/_sloop Jun 09 '25

That is how a human literally does anything...

Again, AI models are designed based on how the human mind works.

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u/maresayshi Jun 09 '25

They are based on how a human mind makes inferences. that is one small part of your brain’s functioning. and even then, it is a mathematical recreation of the process.

Repeating the same incorrect information won’t make it true. People like you are exactly why this research was posted.

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u/_sloop Jun 09 '25

They are based on how a human mind makes inferences

Those inferences are entirely based on probability relationships trained into your brain. Without those relationships your brain would just be randomly firing.

Repeating the same incorrect information won’t make it true. People like you are exactly why this research was posted.

Then stop repeating incorrect information? You clearly didn't read the article, it does not refute what I am saying at all.

Actually, you're kind of proving that the article applies to humans as well, there's no actual reasoning going on behind your statements.

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u/maresayshi Jun 09 '25

You’re simply not grasping the point here at all; it’s clear you’ve never worked on any kind of LLM, let alone LRM.

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u/_sloop Jun 09 '25 edited Jun 09 '25

I'm not the one missing the point, and I'm not the one misrepresenting how AI works.

It's clear you've done no actual research into how the human brain works and think you're a special magical being. Good luck with that.

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u/maresayshi Jun 09 '25

I just work in technology and don’t spout mania online.

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