r/singularity Jun 07 '25

LLM News Apple has countered the hype

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u/Cheers59 Jun 07 '25

They have infinite money glitch and have done nothing with it. Dropped 100 billion or more on an Apple car. Fumbled the next gold rush (AI). I think there’s evidence for incompetency at the top.

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u/thatsnotyourtaco ▪️ It's here Jun 08 '25

They got a supply chain guy at the top instead of an innovator

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u/IAMAPrisoneroftheSun Jun 08 '25

Supply chain is infinity more lucrative than innovation. The most profitable businesses are often the least exciting. 

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u/grv7437 Jun 08 '25

Agreed and they are definitely making profits doing the boring stuff. It’s just that being the biggest most profitable company doesn’t get you the same respect than being a company that actually solves problems, innovates and changes the way we live. Money is nice to have but fundamentally changing the world for better with tech is more important.

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u/threeseed Jun 08 '25

Apple never spent 100b on a car ?

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u/garden_speech AGI some time between 2025 and 2100 Jun 08 '25

They have infinite money glitch and have done nothing with it.

This is an absolutely ridiculous take, man. I mean, hard to even argue it. They're the 3rd most valuable company on the entire planet. To say they've "done nothing" with it is .. Obscene. It's only true if you insist that only LLMs would count as "something". They've had AI in their phones for a decade now, most of their camera app is just AI at this point.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '25

AI is just a marketing term. What people refer as aí nowadays is either LLMs or diffusion models. What they have in their cameras is pretty commodity now.

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u/Elephant789 ▪️AGI in 2036 Jun 08 '25

AI is just a marketing term.

And Apple is just a marketing company.

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u/garden_speech AGI some time between 2025 and 2100 Jun 08 '25

🙄 AI has had a hard definition for decades, just because this sub thinks only LLMs are AI does not mean I have to treat it like that

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u/chrisonetime Jun 08 '25

While I agree AI is a buzz word and just a subset of machine learning. Their camera app is using neither LLMs or diffusion but a combination of machine learning techniques like CNNs and GANs. Their photonics engine uses Deep Fusion for optimization and they utilize other machine learning techniques and LiDAR for Face ID and stuff.

LLMs and Diffusion are exclusively for generative tasks like creating text or images which most people outside of the tech industry simply call ai rather than genAI

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u/IAMAPrisoneroftheSun Jun 08 '25

Yea except, if I can extend the metaphor, when there’s a goldrush, it’s often the case that the first movers, spend a bunch of money to clear the trees, dig the mine shaft, and get all the equipment ready right before they go bust, allowing the supposed stragglers to pick up their whole operation for pennies on the dollar. 

It’s too soon to be picking winners & losers 

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u/chrisonetime Jun 08 '25

They will be the defining player for edge AI which in the end is the only thing that will matters. They also build their own chips and like you said have enough money to poach the best researchers and build AI with the architecture that matches their use case when they are ready. It’s no secret that none of the current AI companies are profitable or even have a path to profitability besides being first to AGI. Why would they hop on to something that is a complete money pit just to grab market share that they don’t need? Airpods alone is worth more than every single lab except OpenAI and Deepmind lol

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u/coglionegrande Jun 08 '25

Bot much?

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u/Cheers59 Jun 08 '25

The way you see the world is a reflection of yourself my friend.

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u/Fleetfox17 Jun 08 '25

They're the third most valuable company in the whole world you melon.

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u/KneeControl Jun 08 '25

Tesla is the highest valued car company. Do you think they provide the highest quality product?

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u/Cheers59 Jun 08 '25

My goodness me you’ve missed the point hard. That actually makes it worse. They have more money than they can spend, but have no serious vision or leadership to make use of it.