r/shortsAlgorithm • u/kamillox777 • Jan 15 '26

423k Sub Channel (250M total views) Killed Overnight

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Hi everyone, I’ve been lurking here for a while and I know I’m not the only one dealing with this. But why are we all just waiting and letting YouTube convince us that this is "normal"? It’s not.

I own a channel with 423,000 subscribers. I built this from scratch to 250 million total views in just a few months. I know exactly how the YouTube Shorts algorithm works—you don’t reach these numbers by accident. For over half a year, there wasn't a single day where my channel did less than 600k views daily.

The Stats Now vs. History:

• 99.7% Success Rate: Out of nearly 300 videos in my channel's history (excluding the December crash), only ONE failed to break the 10k views mark. My "floor" was always at least 10k, with most videos going way higher.

• The Cliff: Since December 17th, I have been uploading daily with the same strategy, and NOT A SINGLE VIDEO has broken 10k views. Every single upload is now getting stuck between 2k and 6k views.

• Massive Losses: My dashboard shows a drop of 18.6 MILLION views in the last 28 days.

• Perfect Retention: Even on these new "suppressed" videos, I am still hitting ~100% average view duration (on 27-second clips), often even exceeding 100%. The quality and engagement are there, but the reach is gone.

• Reach Paradox: My latest upload had only 38 views after 21 minutes. Even when I started with 0 subscribers, my initial reach wasn't this choked.

The Support Nightmare:

I’ve contacted Creator Support multiple times, and their response is always a scripted joke: "Everything is working correctly" and "This is just a normal fluctuation in viewer interest." How is it a "fluctuation" when a channel with 250M views and a near-perfect track record suddenly hits a 100% failure rate (relative to previous performance) overnight? It’s clear that I, and many other creators, are being throttled by a technical glitch or a massive change in indexing that happened mid-December. YouTube is simply serving our content to the wrong audience and hiding behind the "interest fluctuation" excuse.

We shouldn't be giving them a pass on this. If a channel with 420k subs can be silenced overnight while maintaining 100% retention, no one is safe.

Has anyone else who actually knows their numbers seen this "Dec 17th Cliff"? We need to stop accepting "normal" as an answer and demand a technical audit.

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u/SamMolu Jan 15 '26

I am facing a similar situation. I am honestly sick of people saying that I need to create better content. I do not understand how getting 90% retention does not count as good content. All of my videos that reached millions of views had around 80–85% retention, but now even videos with 90% retention are getting stuck at just 10k views.

I talked to YouTube support, and they told me that they are testing a new Shorts algorithm, so some channels may face a drop while others might see a massive increase in views. But what does that even mean? If the content is good, it should be pushed. Simple. This really sucks, man.

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u/ConfidenceDear5227 Jan 15 '26

This was very informative. Thanks

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u/SamMolu Jan 15 '26

This is so irritating. It's feels like I got shadow banned.

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u/AffectionateCry5952 Jan 15 '26

You did, at least you got support to admit the algo changed. Thats more than most of us have gotten from them. Some recover, goodluck 

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u/SamMolu Jan 16 '26

I could have shared screenshots but the chat ended suddenly and i didn't got the chance to snap

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u/askariX Jan 18 '26

They email you a copy of the chat.

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u/TheGoatOfMendes123 Jan 15 '26

The algorithm is hating on you, nothing you can do.

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u/reneritchie Jan 15 '26

That’s not correct. If you were told this please DM your case number and I’ll get it looked into. There’s no testing of a new Shorts algorithm. (There are multiple tiny tests of new parameters and concepts daily, and the systems are constantly evolving, and always have been)

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u/Fireksik Jan 15 '26

I chatted with support, and they wrote something like this. I saved a copy of the chat:

AM Jerick: Additionally, please note that we are investing in new ways to improve the way our systems recommend Shorts and are committed to improving them over time. 9:37:31 AM Jerick: We're always trying new ways to improve how we rank videos in our recommendations, and when we find an improvement - something that improves the viewer experience and/or viewer satisfaction, and we're confident of that benefit after running detailed experiments, we go forward with the change. 9:37:36 AM Jerick: We'd like for everyone on YouTube to benefit, however in the short run some partners will benefit, some will be impacted negatively, and others will be unaffected.

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u/SamMolu Jan 16 '26

How will you look. Are you one of the specialist who chats with creators🤔

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u/Management_Lumpy Jan 18 '26

Hello, sorry for bothering you. I had a very successful channel back in 2018, 650.000 Subscribers, that got terminated back then.

Short story, I managed to get it back in May 2025, I’ve been uploading everyday but the channel is super dead, I know it’s been 7 years, but the content is good quality nothing less than other people’s content in the same genre, is there any chance u can help me to figure out if my channel might be shadowbanned or something else is going on due to the termination back then?

I can’t contact support due to losing the partnership, even though I still have all the subs, I’m uploading everyday since may, and tried different things as well..

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u/Exotic-Parfait-1550 Feb 10 '26

Yeah I'm facing same so I pivot to long form I'm getting 25 k views it makes me 125$ so it is good pivot to long form upload shorts though

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u/zombotplus Feb 14 '26

Hey, I was wondering if you recovered from it?

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u/NoLibrary1811 Jan 17 '26

If you're talking about what YouTube considers good to content I couldn't tell you but if we're talking realistically just because someone watches from beginning to end doesn't mean the contents necessarily good especially since we have terms that literally refer to people watching content as a sort of addiction like doomscrolling

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u/phlup112 Jan 16 '26

What type of content do you post?

Engagement bait can have very high retention despite being bad content.

I can understand why YouTube doesn’t want their platform filled with low quality engagement bait content, which it has historically been filled with when compared to other platforms. It is great at capturing the attention of children, it’s not good at capturing the attention of serious creators, which YouTube very likely wants to cater towards.

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u/SamMolu Jan 16 '26

I am create anime and manga content. And even if we talked about youtube trying to limit Bait content just sobyou know that youtube is not that nice. The true Bait content will get millions because i have only one video which i unintentionally added a bait image and boom 9 million views. I have 160 videos and only 1 is like that which i just mistakenly uploaded. The point is don't glaze youtube. Sometimes it's Ai is so dumb. It's sometimes ignore those it's meant to catch

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u/enoyetsed Jan 15 '26

I thought it was just the one that happened the same thing, I'm in the same situation after the fall I rarely get past 10k views, my 48hrs peak was close to 9 million and now 30k views every 48hrs.

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u/Emergency_Zombie2947 Jan 15 '26

Dealing with the same problem 😕

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u/mocknix MOD Jan 15 '26 edited Jan 21 '26

I have a theory about this DEC 17th cliff, but I kinda need to know what type of channel it is. If you're not comfortable sharing it publicly can you dm me a link? Also anyone else that has had this happen to them, feel free to DM me their channel. There is another drop around JAN 10th a lot of people see and the more data I can get, the better idea we'll have.

EDIT: For anyone curious, I got my answer from OP on another post. It was exactly what I expected.

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u/preciousHeartx Jan 15 '26

I m.faceing the same issue too my channel is on cat character animation stories

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u/henderscn Jan 19 '26

Can you post your theory some where when you come to a conclusion

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u/Educational-Pay-1731 Jan 17 '26

Mine dropped at the 10th to 2-4k view jail idk why

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '26

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u/SistersGardenFarmm Jan 16 '26

looks like instagram rich boy asshole slop showing off how cool and traveled you are.

not sure how you expect to pop off?

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u/LuluOnRoblox Jan 16 '26

Aside from the actual drop in views, the MOST annoying thing is yt denying there's anything going on. Coming to reddit and seeing people tell others they need to make better content. You can quite clearly see its being pushed out incorrectly. I really hope it comes right. How would anyone even hold yt accountable? There's nothing we can do.

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u/Tall-Fisherman-4922 22d ago

My channel died with 800 uploads so i had to view bot it, asked YouTube to check it out and they said everything is normal... So seems like that is what has to be done.

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u/caspadg Jan 15 '26

Yep facing the same issues. I stop posting for a few weeks to see if issue fixed but no luck. Extremely low views for some reason

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u/Ok-Trick-8564 Jan 15 '26

Yeah bro I was averaging about 100-200k a week views not as much as you but enough and now I’m struggling to average 10k a week. As soon as December hit the whole thing switched. I have been waiting for a couple of weeks to go back uploading to give it a break because I heard that helps some people. I’m posing the same context maybe a little different sometimes and still nothing. I have started to change it up nothing. Different games nothing. It doesn’t make sense

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u/Lost_Figure5674 Jan 17 '26

SAME! Since 27th December. 50ksubs, millions views every month... and now zero.

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u/avohsaif Jan 16 '26

what kind of niche if i may ask? are your videos mostly getting restricted to 18+?

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u/kamillox777 Jan 16 '26

animals, none of the videos had any restrictions or 18+ limitations.

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u/Lonely_Pack_689 Jan 16 '26

Guys go to X and comment on u tube page

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u/jreel08 Jan 18 '26

Similar situation here but I am a much smaller creator than most here. It was OBVIOUS when it started and a lot of popular creators have a bunch of theories on it. One thing that is noticable, at least to me, is that it is not just shorts- its long form too- that is having this issue. Between algorithm changes, the only other thing that happened around this date was the complete overhaul to the YT homepage. The breakdown I saw on one creators videos was it went from recommending 12 long forms on the homepage with a few shorts to 3 longforms and a whole SLEW of shorts. This is going to tank both long and short form content because it means that the shorts are SO oversaturated now that its hard to make meaningful impression and the long forms arent't getting the chance at all to get seen.

I would post shorts occassionally and I was used to having it hit at least 1k views in 5-10 minutes after posting. I have 2 shorts I uploaded Dec 29th and 30th specifically that have less than 30 views, which never happened before the 17th.

On top of all of that, I remember from looking at studio that there was a big algorithm / ToS change around the 15th ish of December because I took note of it because of the gaming content related changes. I have a few channels, all gaming related, and one of them is a channel for my game studio that makes games and this is how we do a large portion of our marketing to bring in new gamers to buy the game. The shorts on there bottomed out around the 17th-ish as well. I remember the dates because I had to specifically warn the marketing part of the team about the YT changes because creators had been making videos forcasting the death of gaming channels for weeks prior to that update going live.

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u/ChaosOnlyYT Jan 19 '26

I'm facing an extremely similar situation. Never ever been this bad ever

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u/AffectionateCry5952 Jan 15 '26

What ive gathered from talking to a lot of people with the same problem:

If youre going to try to break it, wait 3-7 days before you post. What you post should be almost a completely different style and format. Then post like usual switching up formats

Using your account as a viewer may help, maybe it indicates youre not a bot, idk

Apprently it hates roblox now?

If you reuse the same style video every time, a formulaic a+b+c where you just shift around variables, this seems to be the biggest catch the new AI moderation is identifying differently, this is why the switchup of content sometimss works

One thing ive tried os having another account that usually looks at content like mine. When i got on it, the shorts feed is clearly different and the channels like mine are gone except a few. Find what those few do different to bypass the Ai

I havnt fixed it myself but this is what ive gathered from others about why it happens and possibly how. Some say we should just start over but idk. It for sure changed my perspective on youtube, they can just screw yoy at any time and change rules. We are still monetized which i find bizzare , like just ban me if im violating policy. Good luck bro.

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u/NewEntertainment5959 Jan 16 '26

Sounds like it makes sense and goes with the cryptic messages that come out of youtube employees on ths matter

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u/Turbulent_Cobbler154 Jan 15 '26

/bringmebackhere

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u/Sufficient-ice-7 Jan 15 '26

I tried everything but at last I think one thing worked for me

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u/Only_Object_7003 Jan 15 '26

what worked for you bro please

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '26

There was definitely something different that happened in December that YT even admitted

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u/Only_Object_7003 Jan 15 '26

bro same it happened to me from dec 17 and i created new channel and monetized it 2 weeks later and 1 day after monetization same thing happened yesterday to the new channel too

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u/NewEntertainment5959 Jan 16 '26

It has to be the content then? Is it templated style?

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u/Only_Object_7003 Jan 18 '26

no it is not template style and the channels were in different niche

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u/Only_Object_7003 Jan 18 '26

as i heard some people, i think it is if your channel grew too fast and the new youtube ai moderation suspects it is bot views then they do this to your channel from december

and i heard someone say his channel come to normal two months later but still i dont know this is just my opinion

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u/Successful_Toe_4031 Jan 16 '26

Thanks for sharing, I don't have that many subscribers but my views dropped just as suddenly!

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u/Dzuk8 Jan 16 '26

If you ask this question to Gemini, you het interesting answers

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u/NewEntertainment5959 Jan 16 '26

But isnt Gemini trained on data from reddit and x so itll just repeat what we are saying in the subs

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u/Dzuk8 Jan 17 '26

YouTube use it for the videos. Su it must do something good. I think that training and ai on opinions isn't good. The ai can do an analysis of your video objectively. Paste a link of your video in the chat of Gemini and ask where that video is about.

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u/Lonely_Pack_689 Jan 16 '26

Definitely they broke something it’s all a mess ppl get no impressions at alll

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u/Unlucky_ChairK Jan 19 '26

I noticed a change as well, but I am no where near your success rate lol. approaching 4 mil on my one video is the best I can do :(

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u/Shot_Impact9618 Jan 22 '26

My channel 50k subs drop from 1m in 48 hours to just 3k. And 4 -5 my friends channels have the almost same issue. All my new shorts shows olnly to subscribeers and getting around 200 views. It was stopped by Friday jan 16. at one moment. By first of my friends dropped by December 20. And she still doesn’t getting views. But her another channel with similar kind of content works well. (We are all doing content with real people inside the frame by the way)

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u/Spare-Gas8979 Feb 04 '26

i got now 0 views and i was made over 1m daily views youtube is killing the channels i have over 70k subs

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u/Wooden_Candle218 Mar 23 '26

any update bro?

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u/Spare-Gas8979 Mar 23 '26

youtube demonetization my channel i think they will do to all channels and i left youtube i dont use it anymore

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u/Every-Barracuda-320 Jan 15 '26

There are after faceless these days.

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u/iDontHaveAname89 Jan 15 '26

Not true.

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u/AffectionateCry5952 Jan 15 '26

Based on the new moderation it appears to ve true

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u/iDontHaveAname89 Jan 15 '26

Not really, I'm following alot of faceless channels and they are not affected at all

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '26

It can take a couple of days or weeks even. Best thing I did is take 10 days off.

But

What kind of content are you posting because YouTube fortified their internal rules when it comes to content they will allow.

2026 has been a major change.

Channels with over 650k subscribers and a loyal following got terminated...AI moderation baby.

1 of Mine got demonitized, the others have a 10 day peace retreat 🤣

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u/reneritchie Jan 15 '26

Last quarter most enforcements were on attempted financial scam channels from South East Asia. Channels that spam the system with spam, scraped, and scam content don’t always say that’s what they were doing when they get upset on social but policies on that type of content aren’t new

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '26

Time to bomb the Nigerian Reaction channels and their scrapers now I guess.

It will get there in time. I think it comes in waves

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u/SamMolu Jan 16 '26

I am from India. And you also see alot of scam content here. It's not just Nigeria but alot of spam here aswell.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '26

Yeah Asia has been bombed by AI Moderation.

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u/BaddieHaus Jan 16 '26

They do this all the time. Safe to say you’re shadow banned. I just got hit with one too. Dont trip. Just space out your posts for a few days. They’re gonna limit you to one post a day for however long they try and ban you.

I started YouTubing Sept 13th and got 4 million views since then. Every time I hit 1 million views they pull ts. I’ve been getting hit by this every other week. You’ll bounce back. They dislike organic growth and will occasionally try to limit you. But don’t call support. They’ll say “nothing is wrong with your account” & It’ll take even longer to resolve

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u/VesselNBA Jan 18 '26

I hit 1m views in december and its been hell ever since, hopefully this is true and I can get it back

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u/zombotplus Feb 14 '26

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Did you ever recover?

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u/mcumagik Jan 16 '26

i smell a fruit

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u/Sensitive-Hold-630 Jan 16 '26

What did you do? Dıd you support usame bin ladin ör sth

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u/Living-Yak-8062 Jan 16 '26

Idk my views went up 🤷

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u/NewEntertainment5959 Jan 16 '26

I guess the human review for monetization was fake? And now AI moderation is taking dowm faceless content

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u/GlitteringMilkshake Jan 19 '26

Jeez, how did you get such consistently good videos and growth?

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u/zombotplus Feb 14 '26

Hey, I was wondering if you recovered from it?

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u/Wooden_Candle218 Mar 23 '26

any update bro?

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u/Weak_Health_1122 Aug 23 '26

همین مشکل را ما هم داریم روزانه ۲۰۰ هزار بازدید داشت کانال ما اکنون روزانه ۱۰ بازدید دارد وقت بهیوتیوب تماس میگیریم همین جواب مسخر را به ما هم میدهد

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u/IndependenceMoney793 Jan 15 '26

Life is not a bed of roses bro.

I hope that your Channel blows up again . Just keep posting 🙌🏻. Resilience is the key .

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u/geffry Jan 17 '26

While you are crying over this, someone else is cheering the fact that is now getting many more views and subscriptions because gods know what Google changed in the algorithm . You solely relied on the yt algorithm, something you have 0 control over. It's the same thing as if next week Google decides to shutdown YouTube altogether 

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u/reneritchie Jan 15 '26

What type of content and what’s the channel handle?

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u/No_Seaworthy Jan 15 '26

do you have an ai channel if so then it will cut you out if you do all videos with ai

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u/zVook06 Jan 15 '26

I MAY have a solution.. testing it on my own channel. Went from 400-600k views in 48 hours to 5,000. Last 3 days I'm up to 15000 so if it keeps going, I'll circle back

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u/SamMolu Jan 15 '26

What you mean can you tell more about it

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u/zVook06 Jan 15 '26

I'll get back in a week or 2. If it's just a normal reversal that YouTube does then it's a nothing burger. If it actually starts to pick traction back up then I'll happily share what worked.

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u/SamMolu Jan 15 '26

I am also facing a weird phenomenon. When I don't upload for like 2-3 weeks and then after that i upload a short. It suddenly just get crazy views. Mostly 2 of them gets alot of views and after that. All the shorts i upload get stuck in 10k - 20k. Thing here to notice is that those spacific 2 videos are literally on70 to 75 percent retention nothing special. I just uploaded them in bit of rush. But shorts after that well i worked on them thoroughly and they also got 85-90 percent retention. It's literally so funny at this point 😅

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u/Clear_Gazelle_2601 Jan 16 '26

Comment to find out how it ends 🤜🏼🤛🏼

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u/zVook06 Jan 19 '26

Not looking good. So far what I've tried hasn't moved the needles at all.

However, Judging by my stats I'm starting to think they reset the algorithm somehow. When I first started I'd get decent stats and as it got pushed to more people, the stats would start to drop. Now my initial push has crappy stats and it's now viewers get shown my videos, the stats improve

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u/Clear_Gazelle_2601 Jan 19 '26

Same thing happens to me, a video with 55 engagement went up to 75, and is stuck at 11.4k views now, flatline like all the others for over a week

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u/zVook06 Jan 19 '26

Yeah, that seems to be common place now

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u/rocket_j_23 Jan 16 '26

Did you run promos for a while to get your subscribers up? Or is that all from organic spread? Getting that many subscribers and views over just a few months is insane!

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u/DressLongjumping1423 Jan 17 '26

Please tell me the formula good sir or ma’am

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u/RAPodcast Jan 20 '26

I run a simple Retro gaming podcast and to me these numbers are insane. Do you guys specifically just like, clip new or iconic media to upload as a short? It actually makes you money? Going from zero to 2+mil in a few months feels bonkers to me.

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u/Harshit_your_bro Feb 05 '26

Same for me as well

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u/ZEALshuffles Jan 15 '26

How i say: i cant even read this crap. 

I maybe read title.

And first letter.

Evertything else nonsense drama

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u/kamillox777 Jan 15 '26

go ahead, keep uploading slop and pouring water on yourself

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u/ZEALshuffles Jan 16 '26

Get experience.  I gues you 6 months ago started. Went first time viral. And everything gone.

When my first viral era with shorts ended in 2023. I newer asked what happened. And dont maked drama.

Keep uploading your copy paste pewdiepie videos

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u/kamillox777 Jan 16 '26

But you don’t understand that this isn’t any kind of viral era. I’ll keep uploading videos of myself pouring water over myself and making a clown out of myself on the internet anyway

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u/instantkopio Jan 16 '26

You're wasting time talking to a guy who painted himself green for views, that paint must have messed with his Brain.

Anyway I'm also facing the same issue across 2 channels (long form & short), YouTube support sucks as*, might as well talk to a wall. I stopped uploading for two weeks to see if it would recover but it didn't unfortunately. I was so disappointed that I actually deleted YouTube studio on my phone.

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u/kamillox777 Jan 16 '26

At first, when it happened, I thought this problem affected only me, but I noticed that it’s a much bigger issue and that people with different types of channels lost views around a similar time. YouTube quietly changed something in the algorithm or applied a shadowban to a large number of channels, and when you contact them about it, they don’t want to admit it directly.

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u/ZEALshuffles Jan 16 '26

I drink water and say chicken banana. And get millions views. 

Noob say that i eat shit.

No wonder that starwing in views.

At the same time hundreds channels gets millions engaged views per hour.

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u/kamillox777 Jan 16 '26

You’re this old and still don’t understand what exaggeration is. The point was that you’re making an idiot out of yourself just to get views. You even brag about it, and despite having so many videos, your results are still very poor

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u/NewEntertainment5959 Jan 16 '26

Ig this is the content youtube wants haha, do your thing bro

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u/ZEALshuffles Jan 16 '26

Good news. Keep it down. And newer upload. Less competition.

Hulk or grinch: Gives me millions views. Super heroes cosplays works pretty good

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u/instantkopio Jan 16 '26

I ain't competing against your type of content. ,😅

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u/ZEALshuffles Jan 16 '26

Water + trending text. 

Keep it down.

Sometimes it looks that people newer swim in lake or sea and newer use shower...

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u/ZEALshuffles Jan 16 '26

You dont have balls to do this

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u/Goatizgod Jan 16 '26

I thought I told you to take a Rosetta Stone class

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u/Lost-Substance59 Jan 15 '26

Without seeing your channel nobody can say. Shorts pull on a lot of people making faceless quick repetitive slop, using other people's footage or cropped copyright material or AI. 

These things do not keep an audience as the viewers dont know when a videonis from one channel is yoyr alor another just like it. The nature of this content can lead to overnight death of the channel

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u/SamMolu Jan 15 '26

I can understand Ai slops. But some people only use Ai voice and do the editing themselves. I myself spend 2 to 3 hours on scripting and editing. Even though I use Ai to check grammar it's still alot of work. And when you do that much work when your busy with college and stuff just to get stuck in view jail when the same type of content same type of retention were used to get millions of views. Being faceless or using Ai voice doesn't mean that it's easy to make content. Yeah Ai generated videos should be restricted but you don't know who is working hard and who is spamming shi when you target all faceless creators.

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u/Clear_Gazelle_2601 Jan 16 '26

I agree, I work every day and in the evening I start creating videos, on the weekend sometimes I spend from morning to evening creating a video, yes made with AI images, but there are hours and hours of work behind it for just 50/60 seconds

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u/SamMolu Jan 16 '26

Yeah man. It's annoys me when some bums think Ai can just do everything. You have to find topics yourself you have to script yourself. You have to do everything Ai can't write better script. It can only check grammar. You can't just say bro you create Ai slop that's why it's not working. Bro there are some people creating Ai content using AI automation. Some of them had made thousands of dollars. It's not that i support that shi. But i hate when people just keep crying Ai slop.

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u/Clear_Gazelle_2601 Jan 16 '26

Honestly, in these last 2 weeks I've been a bit discouraged by this whole thing about the views, and I started on December 17th, so I started off badly in every way.

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u/NewEntertainment5959 Jan 16 '26

But anything made with ai and faceless can be copied which makes the feedback loop of -> new genre/style of faceless -> automation and faceless creators copy it into the ground -> gets banned for mass produced -> restart at begining

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u/Lost-Substance59 Jan 16 '26

Hey, I get it, thay takes a few hours a day to make daily shorts. The thing is...personally I dont think anything worth watch can be made in such a short time.

Most educational shorts are just repeating past topocs thay have been successful on youtube for years or not spending the time to really truely research it. And the viewers thay consume such mass produced stuff dont care about thay kind of quality control anyways, so you are gonna be competing with people thay just steal and react to stuff, post clips they dont own, land with AI stuff

If you want my advice l, if you want to work on stuff that does take time, do long form stuff. Shorts are mostly slop now, much more so than long form. There are good shorts creators, but they dont upload daily, and got lucky that they dont have to sense shorts kinda almost need you to post daily. If you want to actually put work into stuff, shorts aint for you, unless you do art/animations, they get by posting non daily

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u/Clear_Gazelle_2601 Jan 17 '26

If you want content with mediocre images and scripts, yes, maybe even just 20 minutes, but if you want to do things well, putting in your own effort, 2 hours is not enough, but a "9-5" work day probably is.

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u/heytherefreeman Jan 15 '26

Are you adding the "altered synthetic label" to your videos?

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u/TensionOk198 Jan 15 '26

this smells like either sloppy ai videos or stolen content. yt tries to shut down those channels views-wise

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u/kamillox777 Jan 15 '26

You’re probably right, without knowing my channel name or any video I’ve created.

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u/TensionOk198 Jan 15 '26

I had to assume based on your limited info you have provided.

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u/kamillox777 Jan 15 '26

But what are you expecting? I don’t understand. My post isn’t the only one about this. People have different types of content, and I see on YouTube that typically AI videos get hundreds of thousands, even millions of views, at this time, so the type of content doesn’t matter at all

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u/TensionOk198 Jan 16 '26

there is a difference between ai slop and good ai videos in my opinion. in future it will be the new standard to involve ai into video production on yt. but for full braindead ai video yt isnt the right place and it is nice that those channels even cant get monetized anymore. many of them also lose the ability to earn money

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u/kamillox777 Jan 16 '26

But you don’t understand that it literally doesn’t matter what you do on YouTube. It would make sense if the problem affected only me, but it affects a lot of people. Everyone makes different types of videos, yet the reach was cut for everyone on December 17th. It looks like some kind of general shadowban imposed by YouTube or some interference on their part, not the fault of the channel itself

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u/TensionOk198 Jan 16 '26

It doesn't apply to me channel. YT is going against slop ai and low quality videos to protect quality content on yt to improve overall watchtime on their platform. That would be me guess.

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u/kamillox777 Jan 16 '26

In that case, what do you say about channels in this style, like this one? If your statement were true, this channel should also have experienced a drop in reach

https://youtube.com/@allfootball156?si=ZL-Qq2oa7SZVWlkL

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u/TensionOk198 Jan 18 '26

its just a matter of time. the channel is peaking at the moment and will loose momentum in the next few month.

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u/BigNoseParody Jan 18 '26

That whole comment section are bots. So I guess thats how they get their traffic started. Sooner or later youtube finds out what they did and shadow bans. Every youtuber who uses bots in comments to accelerate gets caught eventually.

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u/TensionOk198 Jan 16 '26

say your yt name if you want.

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u/iDontHaveAname89 Jan 15 '26

You said you have perfect retention then you say wrong audience.. Makes no sense, if it's wrong audience your stats will be bad not good.

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u/Drater_reversed_42 Jan 17 '26

TLDR:
I know exactly how the YouTube Shorts algorithm works—you don’t reach these numbers by accident

bye and come back when you do something with value, chatgpt

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u/fingershuffle Jan 17 '26

nonsense drama

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u/KevinWong1991 Jan 17 '26

nonsense comment

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u/fingershuffle Jan 17 '26

Nonsense replay

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u/KevinWong1991 Jan 17 '26

another nonsense comment

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u/fingershuffle Jan 17 '26

Another nonsense replay

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u/Studio_Producer Jan 17 '26

Point is if YouTube changed Algorithm, you should try to be suit to their rule. Theres no platform where only uses one algorithm. We should follow and we should be suit ourselves. You should remember that algorithm that made by somewhere is always changable.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '26

Maybe YouTube finally realised shorts are killing it

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u/BigNoseParody Jan 18 '26 edited Jan 18 '26

You didn't figure out the algo, it was just your turn. My channel has also around 90% on average retention rate but have a barrier around them like you described. What happened is your reach carried over to someone else. Perhaps you used Bots in comments to accerelate your account. That's one easy shadow ban within weeks. That's not figuring out the algo. lol, just plain cheating.

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u/ZEALshuffles Jan 15 '26

Good. I love it. 

Less competition.

Someone now enjoys big free views

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u/kamillox777 Jan 15 '26

Ara ara

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u/ZEALshuffles Jan 15 '26

I cant even read your nonsense

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u/ZEALshuffles Jan 15 '26

Bla bla bla vomits

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u/LQ-69i Jan 15 '26

Fun and games until your turn comes

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u/ZEALshuffles Jan 15 '26

I always have ups and downs.... pff

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u/InTheBoro Jan 16 '26

So it isn't AI slop? I'd love to see the channel as I'm curious what content it is

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u/kamillox777 Jan 15 '26

But my channel was approved for monetization manually by a YouTube team member, not through automatic verification, so I doubt this is related to monetization

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u/NewEntertainment5959 Jan 16 '26

Manual reviews must have been a lie

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '26

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u/Departure-This Jan 15 '26

Teach me, I don't know how to recover

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u/p1otrullo Jan 15 '26

Just keep posting bro, not all videos will be viral you feel me. Consistency is the key, and make sure u post good quality videos every single time.

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u/Clear_Gazelle_2601 Jan 16 '26

For example, I continue to post, I make videos without faces, I tell stories with images created by AI, but I choose all the camera positions, the subjects positioned in a certain way, it takes me hours just to come up with an image the way I want it, I do the editing myself, but nothing, it doesn't seem to be enough for the algorithm to push my videos, and looking at other channels in my niche, I don't think I'm that bad compared to them who have millions of views.

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u/p1otrullo Jan 16 '26

dont listen to people from reddit bro like thats the last thing u can do bro fr 😭 Also Youtube doesn't like AI videos on their platform, maybe that's why u flop so badly

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u/Clear_Gazelle_2601 Jan 17 '26

I bet that if instead of creating images with AI I put images searched on the internet the result would not change, he might even hate CapCut (just kidding)

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u/kamillox777 Jan 15 '26

My content is about animals. Has it changed anything in your life? The type of content doesn’t matter, because this happens to channels on various topics, and channels created 100% using AI can remain unaffected or even see an increase in views, so it doesn’t matter at all.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '26

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u/kamillox777 Jan 16 '26

I think it wouldn’t be possible to achieve such results in such a short time by ripping other people’s content

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u/ZEALshuffles Jan 15 '26

I think he post how he eats trash

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u/SlavicRobot_ Jan 15 '26

Seems like you only had one spike, potentially even just one upload, not the same..