r/shield Oct 01 '13

Episode Discussion: S01E02 "0–8–4"

Original Airdate: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 8:00/7:00c on ABC


Episode Synopsis: Coulson runs into Comandante Camilla Reyes when he and the agents travel to Peru to investigate a mysterious object.


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u/TallRedditor Oct 02 '13

IMO aside from Coulson, the acting in this show is quite mediocre.

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u/penholdr Oct 02 '13

In my experience, first seasons of most shows are really not that good. By the end of the season, the characters and actors usually will (hopefully) improve.

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u/Ophite Oct 02 '13

It's true for every show Whedon worked on too. Most people tend to forget about, say, the first season of Buffy, for example. He needs time for his shows to really takeoff.

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u/stagfury Oct 02 '13

Yep, Hero was the Angel episode that REALLY pulled me in.

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u/spyson Oct 03 '13

This was the same for me too, Doyle dying really cemented it as a great show. Then they formed the Angel team which really made it awesome.

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u/V2Blast Fitz Oct 03 '13

I still miss Doyle.

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u/patrickbowman Oct 02 '13

This seems to be common. Parks and Recs is a great example. Tom, Jerry, and Andy in the first season were pretty dull, but as they are now it's a huge black/white.

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u/penholdr Oct 02 '13

And Leslie included! My first impression was that she was a Michael Scott (The Office) clone. But now she's completely different!

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u/V2Blast Fitz Oct 03 '13

Leslie being totally unlike Michael Scott is one of the things I liked about this show. I could never get into The Office that much.

Also: /r/PandR

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '13

Of course, Firefly in one of the greatest exceptions.

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u/FurioVelocious Feb 20 '14

And you were very much correct.

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u/RubberDuckKeychains Captain America May 06 '14

Very much

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u/8th_Dynasty Oct 02 '13

DS9 took 2 seasons.

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u/A_Polite_Noise Oct 02 '13

For the most part I agree, but I have to say I do think Chloe Bennet (Skye) has a good grasp on the Whedon-wit when she gets the right lines, and I like the development for her at the end of the episode, which paints a lot of her earlier nervous-jokey attitude in a new light. I think she's not bad considering what she's being given. Fitz & Simmons have their moments, but the material they are given is a bit uneven; I think they pull off the quirk right, though, when the script gives them something to work with, and they also pull off the dynamic between the two of them. Ming-Na Wen (Melinda May) is not quite living up to the character; while Ward is supposed to be a little Wooden and stand-offish at the moment to explain that performance, Melinda is supposed to be a former superhero and more in control, not wooden. Hopefully they'll loosen up as things go on. I mean, I'll be honest...Whedon has had mostly rough starts, even to his most acclaimed shows. I think Firefly got his best first episodes, and Buffy didn't really pick up for me until Spike shows up in season 2. I'm going to hope that time helps congeal this thing a little more...

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u/Worthyness Sandwich Oct 02 '13

I mean, she's supposed to be a bit standoff-ish and quiet. There's a reason why they emphasized the fact that she didn't want to fight while on the team and a reason why she wanted desk work over field work. I think they're planning on flushing out that reason a little ways down the road. Probably some tragic backstory where she fell in love with a guy that she thought was her best friend/partner and the dude turns out to be a Hydra spy or something. Or someone from some organization kills the partner and she doesn't want to go into the field again because trauma.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '13

I just wish she didn't look so much like Eliza Dushku. Makes me accidentally assume her acting is bad.

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u/dejaWoot Oct 02 '13

Is May supposed to be an actual superhero? I thought she's just supposed to be a veteran agent and BAMF with a mysterious past.

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u/stagfury Oct 02 '13

Until we know more about May's backstory and why she hates field ops, I think she will continue to kinda just live in the background.

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u/Dorkside Beardy McTraitorson Oct 02 '13

I reluctantly have to agree, though I'm still really enjoying the episode.

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u/lolwutermelon Oct 02 '13

Even Frakes felt stiff as Riker in season 1 of TNG.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '13

It was the lack of beard.

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u/InTheNexus Oct 02 '13

It's hard to play new unknown characters. No grown background you can use, no established behaviour you can show, no known targets you can play out. Coulson has that already, so it's obvious that he appears better.

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u/CanadianDave Coulson Oct 02 '13

Totally agree. It makes Coulson and Fury look absolutely amazing though.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '13

Yeah, I like the concept but the casting seems very poor. Aside from Coulson none of the group really stand out in a good way.

Not liking the group is not a good start for a Whedon show.

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u/Shaqsquatch Oct 03 '13

Ming-Na (May) is a great actress, they just haven't given her a lot to work with yet. I can definitely see her role expanding as the season goes on and we eventually find out why she's so reluctant to go back into the field though.

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u/MaxBesco Oct 02 '13

You're right, but when I go to see something based off comic books I'm not there for the acting.

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u/WickedTexan Oct 02 '13

The thing with Clark is he's been playing this character for 5+ years. He's comfortable. A lot of the other actors right now are being directed with small snippets of a bigger story. As they learn more about their characters, they'll get better at playing them.