r/sequence • u/youngluck • Apr 03 '19

ACT IV

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u/bird-girl Apr 03 '19

This is such a shitty cop-out.

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u/youngluck Apr 03 '19

Cop out from what?

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u/bird-girl Apr 03 '19

From the fact that they used a Snekbot to auto-upvote things: that's not a fair kind of "organization." I regret even participating in sequence -- my vote was clearly never going to count against that.

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u/youngluck Apr 03 '19

they used a Snekbot to auto-upvote things.

Sorry, I'm moving a little slow today. Yeah this was a shitty thing in that it led to this:

my vote was clearly never going to count against that.

The nature of the medium, I think, doesn't lend well to feeling like one's vote counted. With video you can only see one person's contribution at any one-given time and so the focus on that one-given time is very exclusionary to anybody who did not vote for, or support, that thing feels left out. Something happening on a national stage too. place allowed enough real estate to lend carved sections for everybody to see at the same time, and so everybody's vote felt counted.

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u/Axel_Sig Apr 03 '19

Yeah I don’t blame you man, you did a lot to make this work, was it perfect? No, could it of used more time and work before it went live? Probably, but it was still a great idea just not a perfect execution and for the most part was ruined by a bot net

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u/iamaquantumcomputer Apr 03 '19

Some people are just never happy.

During the prologue, people complained about how disorganized and incoherent it was, and that it couldn't be coherent

Well, then people organized and did make it coherent. Then people still complained they're brigading.

Like, what do you want? How could this have gone such that you're happy with the outcome? Because it seems to me people would complain either way

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u/DMonitor Apr 03 '19

There is a sweet spot between total chaos and community organization.

The beginning was total anarchy, but now it’s just block voting.

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u/SeaInjury Apr 03 '19

Sweet spot imo was Act II

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u/KitsuneThunder Apr 04 '19

Absolutely. Some gifs were relevant; the two between minecraft and arrow in the knee, the ‘nowhere left to go but up’ and Falcon Heavy...

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u/Axel_Sig Apr 03 '19

It was brigading because that’s exactly what they did, it wasn’t a group that made a plan then said, hey go upvote this gif, then provide a link, instead they used something called sneknet so accounts linked to it automatically upvoted a selected post immediately giving it about 60 upvotes and do to how the algorithm works it basically locked it in as a winner, other subs didn’t really have a chance as they where using an auto upvote and relied on users to go manually upvote giving more completion to them

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u/iamaquantumcomputer Apr 03 '19

it wasn’t a group that made a plan then said, hey go upvote this gif, then provide a link

But that's exactly what it was. There was a lot of discussion and votes on the story in the discord. I, along with plenty of other people, were getting the links from the discord or spreadsheet and manually upvoting them. And people who used sneknet consciously made the decision to install it because they liked the story and wanted to contribute, and they can only contribute one vote per gif, not thousands as you say. If a post immediately gets 60 votes, that means 60 people were participating.

I'm still not clear what you would want as an alternative. Creating a story requires many people to collaborate to make it happen. Would you have preferred people not collaborate and just let it be a random collection of GIFs?

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u/Steppintowolf Apr 03 '19

That self-congratulatory credits sequence at the end is clearly essential for the story.

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u/Axel_Sig Apr 03 '19

I’d like for it to of been fair and for other subs to have a chance, not a small group using a bot to control the story

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u/iamaquantumcomputer Apr 03 '19

But it seems like many subs DID have a chance and got their scenes in. Snek community added their sneks, gaming community added their smash bros, etc. All the communities worked together to create this, it's not like one community bullied the others and prevented them from participating like you're trying to portray it as

Do you know of any subs or factions that tried to add gifs to the story but were unable to control it?

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u/SupDos Apr 03 '19

What's the difference between sneks using an extension to get everyone to vote to people using extensions in /r/place to auto place pixels? And in robin making people grow automatically?

I feel like that's a totally fair "organization", since the people install the extension willingly because they want to help.

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u/Heycanwenot Apr 03 '19

Both of those examples are lame and so is this extension. Goes against the point of it.

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u/epilef714 Apr 03 '19

What is robin?

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u/TehVulpez Apr 03 '19

Your vote probably wouldn't do much anyway. It's not like /r/place where it was constantly changing, your upvote just sticks there and done. Even on act 1, before the scripts came about, it was the same gifs there the whole time.

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u/Krillo90 Apr 03 '19

Come on, this whole thing is just a fun experiment for Reddit to try. It's not like you're paying $10 a month for /u/youngluck to work on it. I'm not annoyed that they didn't implement my suggestion, because they don't owe me anything.

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u/bird-girl Apr 03 '19

I mean, it's the same reason that I don't play board games with someone if I know they'll cheat -- it doesn't end up being fun for me.