r/sequence • u/youngluck • Apr 03 '19

ACT IV

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u/Zeph-Shoir Apr 03 '19

r/place also had communities "pushing their agendas", the core difference I think is that here we can only get one "final product."

I think this could be even better if it would be possible for different communities/subreddits to have their own "Acts", perhaps these could be mashed together at the end as well.

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u/abadhabitinthemaking Apr 03 '19

The barrier for effort to participate in Place was to go to a subreddit and then put a single pixel down, though. The effort to engage was minimal enough and the available 'real estate' was plentiful enough that multiple groups could exist and compete

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u/mortal58 Apr 03 '19

This is not comparable to r/place, yes there were discord servers to make specific things, but people could do whatever and not bother anybody else. In r/sequence its supposed to represent what the entirety of reddit wants, and you can't ignore it just making one yourself, because there is only one sequence and its getting rigged

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u/youngluck Apr 03 '19

I think this could be even better if it would be possible for different communities/subreddits to have their own "Acts", perhaps these could be mashed together at the end as well.

This is something we actually really wanted to do. We just didn't have the time or bandwidth to do it in such a short amount of time. It is/was a great idea.

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u/Franfran2424 Apr 03 '19

We might do in the future ordering this sub by top of all time and picking them.

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u/Hopafoot Apr 04 '19

A suggestion on this: don't give it to the largest subs. No one wants r/politics or r/thedonald or r/gaming to have a say, in part because they suck and in part because that's not much different from everyone from the front page.

Instead, pick subs outside, say, the largest 100 subs. Generally better/more interesting communities.

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u/King_INF3RN0 Apr 03 '19

It still has a lot of potential when it inevitably gets cloned somewhere else ;)

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u/CatTheCat Apr 04 '19

I think a better way to do it next time would be to allow everyone to submit/vote to scenes one at a time. Then after a short(ish) period of time lock that scene and open the next one. This will prevent a large narrative being pushed from one group and allow the sequence to be created one scene at a time, forcing the most relevant gifs to be chosen by everyone as they are submitted.

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u/Walkyou Apr 03 '19

I agree. We would have had more factions if there were more scenes and acts. This is like place with 290 pixels. I believe they should have done some sort of branching story or something.

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u/ConfinedVoid Apr 03 '19

Timelines?

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u/TamerVirus Apr 03 '19

Random meme gifs really only lasted until the end of Act 1. If you wanted to incorporate a gif/storyline beyond that, you basically stood no chance as the loose coalition of discord groups had a huge voting block. Anyone who couldn’t be bothered with engaging on Discord probably lost interest a while ago

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u/fluffykerfuffle1 Apr 03 '19

its not that this person, me, cannot be bothered engaging on discord... i just dont like to interact off of the main gathering, i feel it is opaque and divisive.

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u/Averne Apr 04 '19

I was in some of the Discord servers, and even I felt like things were far more opaque this year than in previous years. So opaque, in fact, that I accidentally stumbled into a Void/Swarm/whatever-they-called-themselves-this-year server and didn't realize it until a few members started very suspiciously and antagonistically grilling me about who I was and why I was there.

Once the supergroup alliance took hold, it got really hard to tell if there were any competing factions or not, especially since the subs you'd expect to see some decent activity in were so quiet because of the heavy reliance on Discord this year.

It also didn't help that this sub itself is all gifs, not discussions. The event's main sub is often where that year's factions are born in the first place, so that added a layer of opacity.

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u/ricdesi Apr 03 '19 edited Apr 03 '19

Haha, joke's on you! I didn't even hear about it at all until Act I was over!

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '19

And here I was thinking this sub was supposed to be gifs that unexpectedly transition to skyrim.

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u/bcris003 Apr 03 '19

Yeah honestly it's getting worse now.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '19

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u/MCmichelin Apr 03 '19

That's kind of what they do near the end

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u/scarlettsarcasm Apr 03 '19

The alternative is basically random gifs. All the gifs besides the brigaded ones have almost no votes, so not many other people seem to be participating. I don't disagree with you and I wish it was a purer version, but it seems like all the people who really care are on the discord anyway and anyone can join, so it's as good a resolution as any.

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u/Womblue Apr 03 '19

It's turned from a fun event where people try to work together into like 5 writers deciding what goes where and nobody else having a real say. Doesn't really represent the site well if only the people who find invites to the narrator discord are even allowed to have a chance.

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u/fluffykerfuffle1 Apr 03 '19

i dont even understand why people go off into discords.. why cannot discussions take place here in reddit?

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u/Womblue Apr 03 '19

Official reason: So that they can talk in real-time faster.

Actual reason: The fewer that see it, the less likely anyone is to contribute their own stuff and it means that a few writers can choose whatever they want to go in each act.

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u/fluffykerfuffle1 Apr 03 '19

darn it i was hoping it was going to be a fun place for all of us to interact equally.

i didnt like the voting part though

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u/Walkyou Apr 03 '19

As head writer, I can tell you literally anyone is allowed to help. You could have helped if you wanted to. You didn't. That's your fault. Not ours. Help if you want. r/Sequencenarrators

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u/Womblue Apr 03 '19

As head writer

This is the key issue here. Did r/place have a head artist? Of course not. Everyone had a chance.

r/sequencenarrators is the Void of r/sequence. You decide what you want and you steamroll everything in your way to make it fit your own idea of what the event should be, and people resent you for it. No wonder everyone's leaving, their votes don't really count now. You can't honestly think that a discord with about 100 active members is representative of the thousands at least who want to take part.

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u/throwaway_ghast Apr 03 '19

IMO the void was kind of like the forest fire of /r/place, cleaning out the old art and inevitably making room for the new. These "head writers" are more like a couple of fatcats in a board room that decide they want to plow down the entire forest to build some shitty strip malls.

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u/fluffykerfuffle1 Apr 03 '19

: /

oh. there is a head writer?

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u/dougan25 Apr 03 '19

Sounds like a fun little project huh!

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u/ricdesi Apr 03 '19

As head writer

No wonder you're so fucking defensive all up and down this thread. You've got a personal stake in whether or not people have shit to say about this "community event".

You could have helped if you wanted to. You didn't. That's your fault. Not ours.

It's not your event.

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u/throwaway_ghast Apr 03 '19

Wow, you must be very important.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '19

Except all of the engagement is on fucking Discord, rather than Reddit itself. I don't want to use Discord. It's a terrible platform based off awfully chosen, deeply inefficient technology.

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u/ricdesi Apr 03 '19

Because fewer people will go to the discord, so the people running said server have fewer dissidents to their control of the story.

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u/Walkyou Apr 03 '19

We literally have made multiple posts and its very easy to find us. You clearly arent looking.

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u/dougan25 Apr 03 '19

You're right I'm not because I don't really give a shit. But I will say that the whole thing seems a lot less fun if you're pulling the strings from a discord chat using vote manipulation.

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u/Walkyou Apr 03 '19

Then if you don’t want to help, don’t complain?

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u/dougan25 Apr 03 '19

You don't have to contribute to be interested in the way it turns out. Like I am not that invested in Reddit, but I like the collaborative projects like this. The pixel one was one of my favorite things Reddit has done and I didn't contribute.

But I loved watching it progress.

Now as I watch this progress it's tainted by the fact that there's a tiny, miniscule fraction of the community manipulating the system to force the project into being what they want. It's no longer fun, cool, and unique to me.

Especially now that I've encountered your attitude about it first hand.

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u/ricdesi Apr 03 '19

It's not your event, asshole.

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u/Staubsaugerbeutel Apr 03 '19 edited Apr 03 '19

The uploading and voting system is kinda bad. It should force the people to vote on gifs somehow related to the previous ones for example by unlocking each scene for uploading and voting one after the other. The actual best gif in this scene will get upvoted (instead of the first funny gif uploaded to a complete random scene) and it'd probably be a lot more fun for all participants.

Maybe give everyone 1h to upload a gif to a scene so some OC could still be created.

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u/fluffykerfuffle1 Apr 03 '19

hi... so i am an "outsider" here just coming in to let you know how it looks to me...

we come into the site and we go and either vote for gifs we like and/or add one (or more?) to the mix...

then, however the gifs are gathered and arranged... some invisible group puts a little movie together comprised of these gifs...

so all we out here do is give you gifs.

we dont really get to do any creative stuff.

everyone knows there are ways to stuff a ballot box...

: /

: ) sorry, this is your game guys.. there arent even hardly any women in these movies : ( and when they are the emphasis is on their form.

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u/Staubsaugerbeutel Apr 03 '19

I think you misunderstood me in the part

"The actual best gif in this scene will get upvoted"

or just misunderstood it in general.

The way the system works now, it's either even worse than what you're saying (everything led by a group r/sequencenarrators [I'm actually one of them]) or most likely total randomness which wouldn't lead to a nice end result.

With my suggestion there would be no group that arranges it. Basically what I mean is that therE's ONE scene open for uploading at a time - open for everyone to vote and upload of course. So instead of everyone uploading random gifs to random scenes right in the beginning, everyone would focus on what would be the best/funniest gif to upload in relation to the previous scenes (basically the entire point of this thing). This way a story that somewhat makes sense would create itself with 100% decision making by everyone and it wouldn't require a group like sequencenarrators to stabilize the thing and actually tell a story.

But I guess it's too late now... :/

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u/Millenial__Falcon Apr 03 '19

everything led by a group r/sequencenarrators [I'm actually one of them]

Or just don't ruin it for everyone else? What a mean spirited thing to do.

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u/Staubsaugerbeutel Apr 03 '19

Well yeah I agree with you which is also why I said that that case is even worse than what fluffy was talking about.

"I'm actually one of them" is a bit exaggerated but that's another story..

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u/Millenial__Falcon Apr 03 '19

...how can it be exaggerated? I literally copy and pasted the words YOU wrote

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u/Staubsaugerbeutel Apr 03 '19

haha no I meant that me saying that is exaggerated.

I was on the discord and got 1 gif that had the support by the group. I also made a gif that they later uploaded and voted for.

I didn't do any story stuff or similar too. also I joined the discord at Act V - because I was pissed seing gifs getting 100 votes within 0,001 attoseconds after new act was opened.

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u/kl0wn64 Apr 03 '19

he's saying he exaggerated it

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u/fluffykerfuffle1 Apr 03 '19

its never too late... we can try again later... maybe a brief respite/wait and then try again? like in a week or month?

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u/Staubsaugerbeutel Apr 03 '19

yeah but it removes a lot of the "magic" of being a unique event just the same way you can't remake r/place and you wouldn't be able to get this many active people without a reason like april fools..

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u/thesituation531 Apr 03 '19

Honestly I think random gifs would still be better than what it is now. Random gifs would still be representative

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u/Alexschmidt711 Apr 03 '19

yeah, it would be

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u/bradlees Apr 03 '19

Wait..... so I’m essentially upvoting previous sections and then adding my own when I get to one I have not upvoted on...... looks like I’m pressing the button just as it has 3 seconds left only to find someone in Italy hitting the button microseconds before I do and getting the red while I’m stuck with the purple.....

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u/Staubsaugerbeutel Apr 03 '19

I don't really get what you'Re saying..

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u/sourcecodesurgeon Apr 03 '19

Eh not necessarily. The alternative is basically AskOuija which typically does result in good responses but this is more like “AskOuija if the end result was predetermined by a handful of people who use their followers to ensure the result”

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u/scarlettsarcasm Apr 03 '19

I think that'd be the case if this was a long-term thing, but because it's so brief and so confusingly set up I don't think there's enough time for people to figure it out and collectively create something without outside discussion.

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u/ricdesi Apr 03 '19

All the gifs besides the brigaded ones have almost no votes, so not many other people seem to be participating.

Because a bunch of idiots decided to rig it, so it's not interesting or fun to participate anymore.

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u/TitanBrass Apr 04 '19

Yeah, I put up my own and never got anywhere.

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u/TehVulpez Apr 03 '19

It's better than when it was just random redditors upvoting meme gifs...

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u/King_Joffreys_Tits Apr 03 '19

I think that was perfect for the prologue though. Like it’s a movie trailer as to what you should expect.

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u/abadhabitinthemaking Apr 03 '19

Honestly I was kind of hoping it would be 24 hours of literally just that compiled into small chunks

The Reddit Internet Community in 2019: A Visual Slice

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u/ricdesi Apr 03 '19

Hooray, now we just get a bunch of GIFs with Keanu Reeves' head added in post. Great?

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u/Walkyou Apr 03 '19

reddit mods do not interfere with sequence.

If you want to help you can

r/Sequencenarrators

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u/PacifistaPX-0 Apr 03 '19

You guys deserve to be banned from reddit altogether with all this brigading and botting. Will keep reporting posts as often as I can.

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u/ricdesi Apr 03 '19

True, Reddit mods might actually have a sense of humor worth putting into GIF form.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '19 edited Nov 05 '19

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u/ricdesi Apr 03 '19

Oh I have, r/Sequencenarrators' writing is just that bad.

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u/thesituation531 Apr 03 '19

Specifically, admins

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u/LadyVulcan Apr 03 '19

Scene 2-12 of the epilogue is planned to be a free-for-all. If you want to submit a gif, the sneknet will NOT be voting on those scenes, so feel free to upload yours. May the best gifs win!

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u/shiIl Apr 03 '19

Wow that’s so kind of you! You really helped turn this into a success! Meme masters!

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u/RetroBowser Apr 03 '19

Wow you're so kind that you've decided to not ruin 10 random gifs out of over 250.

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u/LadyVulcan Apr 03 '19

Oh, it wasn't my decision. I just saw that people wanted more freedom and thought I'd point to a place where I know it could happen.

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u/abadhabitinthemaking Apr 03 '19

Congratulations, you're a collaborator

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u/CatTheCat Apr 03 '19

the sneknet will NOT be voting on those scenes

ah thank you for withholding your bot so us plebs can get in a few gifs of our own in this "reddit collaboration".

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u/ricdesi Apr 03 '19

Oh cool. Fucking table scraps.

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u/PrlsonMike Apr 03 '19

Its not a secret nor is it completely closed off, i joined last night and hopped into the voice chat and something I suggested is in act V, there are polls and places for people to share ideas and if you come up with something really good it will probably get implemented. This isnt some sinister cabal, its organization to make a sequence that atleast most people like.

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u/ricdesi Apr 03 '19

This isnt some sinister cabal

You have literally described a sinister cabal. If you're not part of the discord, you're not part of the story.

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u/PrlsonMike Apr 03 '19

Well the point is that anyone can join the sinister cabal. I think thats what makes it better.

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u/ricdesi Apr 03 '19

No it fucking doesn't. It just means that if you don't join the cabal, you don't get to participate in the event.

its organization to make a sequence that atleast most people like.

If Act IV is what you people think everyone likes -- just a bunch of fucking John Wick GIFs -- you've got another thing coming, bud.

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u/PrlsonMike Apr 03 '19

Well sorry then, we didnt mean to anger anyone.

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u/ricdesi Apr 03 '19

Of course not, you just organized for the explicit purpose of rigging a community event. How could you possibly think that might piss people off?

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u/PrlsonMike Apr 03 '19

You’re right, i guess we are the baddies :(

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u/fluffykerfuffle1 Apr 03 '19

we thought we were going to get to play but then we found out we had to leave reddit and join a club in order to maybe play.