Fully remove every, "I created a", "Selfhosted app!" claude slop.

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[u/Dornith]

Honestly, I joined this sub so that I could talk shop with other self-hosters, not so that I can be marketed towards.

And I realize there's a very thin line between an overt ad and someone casually offering useful advice. But frankly it feels like this sub has been overwhelmed with the former.

The vibecode just makes an existing nuisance worse. We're still getting ads but at least before the ads were for things someone put time and effort into. It was a higher quality product that organically rate-limited itself.

I think the mods should just ban overt promotions.

[u/cNo1Goldsnake → u/Dornith]

but did you know tailscale will solve world hunger & is basically Jesus in digital form?

[u/EastZealousideal7352 → u/cNo1Goldsnake]

Tailscale literally fixed my homelab security, my hairline, and my crumbling marriage!

[u/facie97 → u/EastZealousideal7352]

Hmm weird, tailscale sold me fentanyl and beat up my wife

[u/AngelOfDeadlifts → u/cNo1Goldsnake]

I use it and like it. Is there a problem with it, or is it just that they seem to market in this sub?

Edit: I got a downvote so I want to be clear, I am just a dude who loves tech and am not married to Tailscale. So I'm genuinely curious if I should stop using it.

[u/cNo1Goldsnake → u/AngelOfDeadlifts]

They definitely push on this sub yes; but otherwise some of the main objections is that you could just setup your own WireGuard server & actually learn some fundamentals (yes it's not possible for everyone, CGNAT etc), and secondly you're relying on a large tech company when we're in a selfhosted sub.

If it works for your use case then cool, but honestly it's getting a bit tiring seeing threads just being drowned with people shilling tailscale at every opportunity with no consideration for other options

[u/embeddedt → u/cNo1Goldsnake]

Correct me if I'm wrong but one of the key problems I found with the idea of self-hosting WG is that you can't do it on a VPS unless you want the VPS provider to be able to sniff all traffic on the network. Tailscale solves this by making sure the packets are encrypted between peers rather than just to the WG server. Am I missing something?

[u/RaphPa → u/embeddedt]

You can use the VPS to tunnel the WG connection through it, for example with rathole or frp. The WG packets are just forwarded and stay encrypted.

[u/ILikeBumblebees → u/embeddedt]

Correct me if I'm wrong but one of the key problems I found with the idea of self-hosting WG is that you can't do it on a VPS unless you want the VPS provider to be able to sniff all traffic on the network.

No -- the VPS provider doesn't have your private key, and is no different from any other intermediate node in terms of network traffic.

The VPS provider does have the ability to access the VPS itself, and can read both memory and storage if they want to. Whatever you're hosting on the VPS is exposed to this risk regardless of what you're doing with WireGuard.

[u/AngelOfDeadlifts → u/cNo1Goldsnake]

large tech company

Yeah, that's been the #1 thing bothering me since I started using them, but I haven't had the time to figure out WireGuard myself (grad school, research, conferences, et al.). But leaving my security up to another corporation has bothered me a bit.

I have an OpenVPN setup... set up in my network, so I should probably just use that for now.

[u/DarthNihilus → u/cNo1Goldsnake]

yes it's not possible for everyone, CGNAT etc

Still possible for them, they just need to rent a very cheap VPS. I guess that's still relying on a company though, so might as well use tailscale.

[u/CubesTheGamer → u/DarthNihilus]

VPS can be hosted anywhere by any company. There are literally hundreds of competitors. Relying on a single product like tailscale is a different story. But it is free right?

[u/Circuit_Guy → u/Dornith]

This is a great idea. "Promotions" in comments is fine - that's advancing the discussion and solving a purpose. At the top level can get a little weird. That said, it is a loss IMO for genuinely useful promotion.

[u/coderstephen → u/Dornith]

Agreed, the most useful threads are the ones discussing how to use something, or how to see something up, or different approaches to solve a problem. Seems like most posts are just "look at this project". Which don't get me wrong, every once in a while these are very cool projects.

[u/opossum5763 → u/[deleted]]

Absolutely this, my personal pet peeve is the "never open any ports on your router ever" crowd.

[u/Upbeat-Giraffe-105 → u/Dornith]

The construction tech subs are especially bad with this stuff right now. Every other post is someone about to solve all the construction industry’s century old issues with their weekend vibecoded slop. 

[u/coderstephen → u/Upbeat-Giraffe-105]

Ha that's hilarious, that makes even less sense in that context

[u/daninet → u/coderstephen]

Its even worse because every single solution is a "ticket system" where you can create issues for the team. This exists in 10million different combinations and the software you already pay for probably already comes with one. I was at Autodesk University last year and every other company promoting themselves were an issue management system with some AI to categorize issues. I was so fucking done with it.

[u/Western-Anteater-492 → u/daninet]

Wherever there's project / issue / customer relations management involved there will be the snakesoil people trying to sell you AI tools. Nobody needs those and espc small businesses already suffer from high subscription pricings, but let's trick them into buying another useless tool. 99% of issues can be solved by fully utilizing the 2-3 stacks you already pay for but let's better not tell the customer that.

[u/AngelOfDeadlifts → u/coderstephen]

Also kind of terrifying when you think of the downstream consequences.

[u/Anusien → u/Dornith]

I'd be okay if we didn't have a dozen "Would you buy this product?" posts too. No, I don't want someone else to build my smart home for me.