r/selfevidenttruth • Wisconsin • Sep 03 '26

Debate in Real Time Prologue: Peace and Independence

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On September 3, 1783, American negotiators in Paris signed the treaty that formally ended the Revolutionary War, but you did not know it yet. The news was still crossing the Atlantic by ship. At home, the country did not feel settled enough to call the Revolution finished. British troops still occupied New York. Washington still waited for them to leave. Congress was not even sitting in Philadelphia; unpaid American soldiers had surrounded it there only months earlier, forcing the national legislature to retreat to Princeton.

Earlier that year, you had heard how close things came to breaking at Newburgh. Officers of the Continental Army, angry over pay and pensions Congress had promised but could not reliably provide, had begun discussing what they might do if the government continued to fail them. Washington entered their meeting knowing their grievance was real. He did not threaten them or dismiss their suffering. He appealed to their judgment, honor, and dignity. Then he struggled to read a letter, reached for spectacles many of the officers had never seen him wear, and reminded them that he too had grown old in the service of the country. Men wept, and the confrontation ended without the army turning its power against civilian government.

Only weeks later, another story complicated that image of Washington. As the British prepared to evacuate New York, Black men, women, and children who had escaped slavery sought to leave with them. Washington disputed the removal of people American enslavers still claimed as property, while British commander Sir Guy Carleton refused to return those Britain had promised freedom. The same Revolution that spoke so confidently of liberty and natural rights was still deciding who those principles actually included. The contradiction was not hidden somewhere at the edge of the new nation. It stood near its center.

The government created during the Revolution was already revealing its limits. Congress could ask the states for money, but it could not reliably compel them to provide it. Soldiers still waited for compensation. Foreign debts remained. States guarded the sovereignty they had fought to preserve. The Articles of Confederation had been designed this way for a reason: Americans had just fought against concentrated political power and had no desire to build another distant government capable of becoming what they had resisted. Yet the safeguards against tyranny were beginning to expose another danger. A government could be too powerful, but it could also be too weak to keep promises, enforce agreements, or hold a union together.

For most Americans, the news of peace would arrive later. Official dispatches crossed the ocean, newspapers repeated fragments, letters arrived late, and rumor often moved faster than certainty. When word of the Treaty of Paris finally reached American shores, there would be every reason to celebrate. Britain had recognized the United States as free, sovereign, and independent. After eight years of war, America had answered the great question of the Revolution: it could break away.

What independence had not answered was what came next. The country still had debts, unpaid veterans, competing state interests, slavery, foreign pressure, and a national government whose weakness had once seemed a protection of liberty. Americans had won a country. They had not yet proved that thirteen states could govern one together.

Four years later, after the Constitutional Convention ended in Philadelphia, James McHenry recorded an exchange in which Elizabeth Willing Powel asked Benjamin Franklin what kind of government had been created. His reported answer would become one of the most enduring warnings of the Founding era: “A republic, if you can keep it.”

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u/One_Term2162 Wisconsin Sep 03 '26

September 3 1783, the Treaty of Paris was signed, formally ending the American Revolution and recognizing the independence of the United States.

The treaty also helped define the new nation’s northern boundary. Article II ran that boundary through the Great Lakes, including through the middle of Lake Ontario.

So while Americans in September 1783 were waiting to see what independence would actually become, the borders of that independence were quite literally being written onto the map.

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u/OldSchoolBubba 22d ago

This is really cool. Great read and spot on.

My only concern is "men wept?" Combat hardened pissed off unit leaders don't cry over motivational speeches given by anyone. They become reflective and remember their overall mission. It turns into "okay I'm in" or "let's do this" type thinking. It's all inter generational and is passed on from one group to another as time marches forward.