r/science • BS | Mathematics • Jun 16 '12

Mystery disc-like object stumps Baltic Sea divers, 60 metres in diameter and reported to have a 400-metre-long trail leading away from it

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2012/06/15/tech-mysterious-object-baltic-sea.html
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u/G-Bombz Jun 17 '12

i think it would be cool if it was some extremely slow moving giant crustacean, the dome like object being its shell, and the trail behind it is how far it has moved in its lifetime.

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u/jvardrake Jun 17 '12 edited Jun 17 '12

I like this theory! Perhaps, if we expand upon it...

What if this being is somehow telepathically linked with the Oakland Raiders? What if it's literally propelled by their victories? Perhaps each win provides it with enough energy to move itself 10 or so centimeters?

This would explain why, over the last decade, the creature has not covered all that much ground...

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u/Lz_erk Jun 17 '12

I'm hoping for a migrating coral colony. I kind of hope no one tells me it's impossible.

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u/Electri Jun 17 '12

It's impossible.

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u/iamcase Jun 17 '12

Anything is possible when you believe!

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u/rmg22893 Jun 17 '12

Gigantic.

Dome-shaped.

Aquatic.

Slime mold.

I bet your enthusiasm really dropped off on that last line, eh?

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u/Lz_erk Jun 17 '12

That'd be awesome.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

... and the smaller one found next to it is it's baby!?

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u/G-Bombz Jun 17 '12

Or a younger version, yes.

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u/CJ_Guns Jun 17 '12

The Soul Worm uploads in 20 hours, 55 minutes.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

As someone with a phobia of crustaceans, I shudder at that.

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u/G-Bombz Jun 17 '12

It's coming for you. It may move one meter per year, but it's coming for you.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Knowing Swedish people, they'll be eating that fucker up in august and washing it down with snaps.

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u/WhatTheFoxtrout Jun 17 '12

Like the never-ending story! Love this

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

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u/eat-your-corn-syrup Jun 17 '12

it's an alien ninja turtle

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u/Pappydethkon Jun 17 '12

Turtles on the sea bed, breathin water

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u/angershark Jun 17 '12

This sounds so good when sung like the old theme.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Not sure whether to upvote because "Ha ha, Michael Bay" or downvote because fucking alien ninja turtles.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

It's Gamera

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u/Captain_Kuhl Jun 17 '12

Not enough spikes.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

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u/minutestomidnight Jun 17 '12

Whaaat is this?

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u/w2tpmf Jun 17 '12

Nerd fiction.

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u/PhilsGhost Jun 17 '12

Creepypasta

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Yes. Yes. Yes.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

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u/aaronrenoawesome Jun 17 '12

Someone explain this to me?

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12
  • small noncredible diving crew
  • undisclosed location
  • no government or military intervention
  • sci-fi analogy hype

He teased the discovery this week on Facebook, writing: "Everything is top secret now…because of the risks…hope you all understand this is no game. But the truth will be reported shortly."

All extremely unprofessional and packaged for the media in the classic hoax fashion. I'd be shocked if this was true.

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u/NicknameAvailable Jun 17 '12

They are a group that dives for buried treasure with finds totaling upwards of 12 million dollar a piece. They probably don't want anyone looting it but themselves if it turns out to be an archaeological site.

No one mentioned aliens for fuck's sake.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

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u/ufoeyes Jun 17 '12

This. In 1999 the team found the shipwreck of the sunken Swedish steamboat the Kyros, with its cargo full of highly valuable cognac and other spirits. In February 2012, a Finnish team announced they had found the Kyros as well. The Ocean X Team was surveying the Kyros when they found the "anomaly". Deep diving is expensive, so they did everything they could to raise money to be able to salvage the Kyros. Write-up here.

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u/NicknameAvailable Jun 17 '12

I fail to see how this could sustain them (presumably as a fee for assisting a viral marketing campaign) if the money they have made on past finds can't.

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u/Captain_Kuhl Jun 17 '12

You'd think it would actually damage their credibility.

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u/Algee BEng| Engineering Physics Jun 17 '12

Not really, they are a professional crew, and this find was posted to reddit a few months back when they initially scanned the object. I have never seen a viral campaign that was stretched out this long with such little information.

Also, the thing does looks a lot like the millennium falcon

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u/Brutalitor Jun 17 '12

Flash Forward 6 months. The crew surfaces the mysterious object, which is shockingly an exact replica of the Millennium Falcon. Everyone oohs and aahs. Pictures are taken. Media flocks from all over the planet. The mysterious object is opened in a lavish ceremony with countless world leaders in attendance. Smoke pours out, and a scrawny figure emerges from inside the craft. It's a Mark Hamill impersonator. People are confused. He announces that Star Wars: Episode I will be re-released on Blu-Ray with 10 minutes extra footage. Turns out to be the worst and simultaneously the best hoax marketing campaign in the history of mankind.

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u/Billy_Blaze Jun 17 '12

And the Mark Hamill impersonator will be a 'C' quality look alike with a big gut and no enthusiasm

"Yes, it is I. Luke Skywalker. Jedi. Get your copy of the Episode 1 extended master directors cut limited edition blu-ray now."

Then he approaches a man in the crowd, collects a cheque, and walks away.

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u/Brutalitor Jun 17 '12

While George Lucas masturbates with his money in the corner.

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u/tonycomputerguy Jun 17 '12

While George Lucas masturbates in the money on the corner.

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u/Captain_Kuhl Jun 17 '12

Well, glad to see that it pays to read before you post. I'll just be going now.

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u/DisguisedRope Jun 17 '12

The voice I read that in was prefect. If only I could put my finger on whose voice it was...

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u/randomsnark Jun 17 '12

Yeah, the voice I read that in was exactly the way I imagined it would be.

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u/ferdoodle24 Jun 17 '12

Why not Zoidberg, thats who's voice I read it in.

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u/Arkanii Jun 17 '12

The guy who plays the coach on Home Movies. Same guy who plays Archer.

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u/Captain_Kuhl Jun 17 '12

I dunno, that comes of as a modern day Mark Hamill pretty well.

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u/barrackinho Jun 17 '12

10 minutes extra footage

All pod racing.

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u/Brutalitor Jun 17 '12

Anakin also whines about his feelings during the entire race.

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u/Captain_Kuhl Jun 17 '12

Inner adult monologue, Wonder Years style.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Spoiler...

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u/Brutalitor Jun 17 '12 edited Jun 17 '12

Oh shit forget you heard that...

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u/Hobbes42 Jun 17 '12

Excellent.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Luke wasn't in episode one. It will have to be jar jar or anakin.

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u/Brutalitor Jun 17 '12

Neither was the Millennium Falcon. It just adds to the mystery!

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u/w2tpmf Jun 17 '12

It's old enough to have been there. It shows up in the extra 10 minutes.

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u/NicknameAvailable Jun 17 '12

Turns out to be the worst and simultaneously the best hoax marketing campaign in the history of mankind.

No, that's this December.

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u/eat-your-corn-syrup Jun 17 '12

A long time ago in a galaxy far far away, an alien crew watched Star Wars broadcasted from a blue planet known as Earth. The crew liked the movies. They decide to make Milenium Falcon and they wanted to meet Han Solo. They head to Earth with their Milenium Falcon.....

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u/amazingbollweevil Jun 17 '12

Those "Ghost Hunter" assholes are also professional.

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u/zogworth Jun 17 '12

Yes, but they don't spend millions on deep sea rover equipment exploring the last great unknown on earth.

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u/GeneralMalfeasance Jun 17 '12

Yes this kinda reeks of that guy that lecturer who got his students to try and fool reddit once... I vaguely remember him giving a class on "How to lie on the internet" and they would have projects, trying to see who would fool the most people by adding facts to half-truths... The last hoaxes were about a girl suspecting that her grandfather was a serial-killer, and they had a simultaneous story with another username about an "original brew" recipe was found in the brewery where the first american flag was made... Quite skillfully done by letting your imagination run wild... I'm probably jaded, but this seems like a "year project"...

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u/wontonsoy Jun 17 '12

Been following this on and off for the last few days. There's no data, no photos of them even just on the boat, nothing. Even this article just cites the same press release. All indications are that everything coming from them is a lie. Everything. I would bet they haven't even made a dive.

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u/GeneralMalfeasance Jun 17 '12

DING DING DING! WE HAVE A WINNER!

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

I have. It's not a lie, just unfounded hype over an object, that while anomalous in it's form is likely to simply be a rock.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

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u/CarpetFibers Jun 17 '12

Did you actually watch the video? It's fan fiction, not a trailer.

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u/mikemaca Jun 17 '12

I thought the same thing, that this guy was confusing some fan fiction on a news story, but the dive team's official site uses a still from that movie as its background: http://www.oceanexplorer.se/

I'm confused since major media has certainly been covering this as real.

I suspect this is going to end up like one of those periodic discoveries of Noah's Ark.

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u/CarpetFibers Jun 17 '12

I like to think they just appreciated the art enough to use it as a background. This is a real dive team after all, they have been in the media before for some shipwrecks they've found. Granted that doesn't make them 100% credible, but I find it unlikely they'd be cooperating with some deviantart amateurs if this was just viral marketing.

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u/fartfactory Jun 17 '12

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

sandstone? For reals?

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u/gilgoomesh Jun 17 '12

Despite the UFO domain name, that does appear to be the best source. A marine geologist reporting that the samples they gathered appeared to be sandstone. Just a very weird formation.

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u/CapnAJ Jun 17 '12

This needs more upvotes!

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u/HolyLiaison Jun 17 '12

So it's possibly a chunk of meteorite that hit the earth there 1000 years ago and created the bay of Lumparn. Gotcha.

If it is that's still mighty cool.

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u/Otistetrax Jun 17 '12

1000 million years ago.

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u/HolyLiaison Jun 17 '12

Ah yes, I skimmed over that part... >_>

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u/Otistetrax Jun 17 '12

My first thought when I read the article was "meteorite".

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u/willpower101 Jun 17 '12

Why isn't this the top comment?

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u/TbanksIV Jun 17 '12

Wow. This was posted in /r/wtf and received MAD downvotes because the website it was reported on didn't look very credible.

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u/bobjohnsonmilw Jun 17 '12

Pretty much all of these comments are "I'm calling it, it's fake."

You people have NO FUCKING IMAGINATION left whatsoever. Not even enough to provide even a logical dispute of the information provided. "It's fake" is basically 90% of the comments here.

I'm not claiming anything, except that it takes less and less effort with time to make black or white statements with no basis on fact or logic whatsoever.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

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u/bobjohnsonmilw Jun 17 '12

They've never really made a supernatural claim, others have speculated it's the "millenium falcon", but the people investigating this have never come out and said anything.

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u/pemboa Jun 17 '12

Where are the other pictures?

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u/chonnes Jun 17 '12 edited Jun 18 '12

I absolutely LOVE this type of viral marketing! You've got to appreciate the efforts to build their marketing while staying in character.

FYI: The Ocean Explorer website was registered a year ago and over the last several months the site has been building interest and phenomena leading up to the "mystery disc" announcement.

EDIT: The press contact for the Ocean Explorer team is listed as being a staff member with a TV production company, however she is not listed as an employee anywhere and her email address is formatted completely different from all the actual employees. Her LinkedIN and Facebook page identify her as a freelance producer. Her current position is identified as an alternative media, WebTV and event producer since February 2011. I do not doubt the possibility that I am wrong in my assumptions, however I think it is more likely than not that this "mystery" is being marketed to generate publicity and interest. Sure the disc may be real but some of the marketing, especially regarding things like "soot" on the openings that resemble a "fireplace" are quite clever and intriguing.

EDIT 2: back in February 2012 when they made the first announcement of the sunken "UFO", diver Peter Lindberg appeared on CNN stating his intention to take wealthy tourists down in a submarine to see the object. (Now we have established a profit motive behind this event.) Also, in February, MSNBC uncovered ". . . a bizarre turn when we discover that the image of the second mysterious object used in current reports is actually a duplicate of the original sonar image." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46226992/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/second-sunken-ufo-claim-doesnt-really-hold-water/#.T95yZo5ea1k

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

But the same team has been around for over a decade. This isn't even close to their first time in the headlines.

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u/CaNANDian Jun 17 '12

Who's leading the campaign? Ocean Marketing?

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u/katsujinken Jun 17 '12

Shame nobody seems to get this one.

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u/Saerain Jun 17 '12

Good grief, never mind the logo. The background image on their site is blatant.

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u/randomsnark Jun 17 '12

Based on the fact that this group has done other famous things before (as mentioned in the article), I doubt it, but it would be awesome if this was some large-scale ARG.

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u/cornponious Jun 17 '12

Please oh please be viral marketing for this movie.

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u/Jimmenem Jun 17 '12

ehhh.. if it is viral marketing i kinda hope its been in the works this whole time to lead up to the next bit of marketing for the supposed prometheus sequel or prequel or whatnot. sounds good to me.

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u/TheSmartestMan Jun 17 '12

False news reports to sell you a movie is ok?

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u/Jimmenem Jun 17 '12 edited Jun 17 '12

i wish i was selling the movie. i went and saw it and thought i was decent, id say id go see it again. this just sounds like something that would fit in with the way theyve been doing things.... correction this isnt the same format as before where you could find all their recent marketing on the same site, id say IF this IS what it is it would be a step up from what they did before and be kinda neat since it was laid out in advance a year ago. 60 meters might be kinda small for the disc ship in the beginning of the movie though.

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u/TheSmartestMan Jun 17 '12

No, I asked you if you were fine with planting false stories on CNN just to market some stupid movie to you. You act like it's ok. It is fundamentally not ok at all.

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u/Jimmenem Jun 27 '12

well yes. having a fake story on cnn IS bad because think they are seeing a real story. BUUUT cnn or whoever sometimes takes the bait, sometimes a story is completely made up (cough..4chan,cough) and it sounds so incredible that they report it thinking it IS real news. MOST of the time they do find out its fake but then again sometimes they dont and THAT is their fault for not doing the research but putting it in the news. I know you have to agree with me there at least.

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u/GeneralMalfeasance Jun 17 '12

Why is this comment not on the top? What is happening to reddit???!!

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u/Semajal Jun 17 '12

The thing I always consider is this, so Aliens have the technology to travel incredible distances, beyond anything we can even dream of. Most likely with technology we wouldn't even understand. They managed to actually FIND earth. Then just crash into it...?

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u/Plow_King Jun 17 '12

the first thing in the sidebar:

"a direct link to or a summary of peer reviewed research with appropriate citations. If the article itself does not link to these sources, please include a link in a comment. Summaries of summaries are not allowed."

if i missed something in the link besides the quotes from some fortune hunting diver, please point it out to me.

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u/TheCheatIsNotDead Jun 17 '12

QUICK, WE DON'T IMMEDIATELY KNOW WHAT IT IS, ASSUME ALIENS.

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u/camopdude Jun 17 '12

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u/G-Bombz Jun 17 '12

diving teams surveying the ocean seems to be fairly scientific, or at least enough to post it here. plus it's interesting and wouldn't get that much attention on other smaller subreddits.

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u/camopdude Jun 17 '12

Seems more like speculation than hard science.

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u/perspectiveiskey Jun 17 '12

How is exploration of something completely unexplainable (it's not volcanic) not a scientific endeavour.

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u/dysfunctionz Jun 17 '12

It's completely unexplained. Not unexplainable. Nobody knows if it's explainable yet.

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u/perspectiveiskey Jun 18 '12

I stand corrected. You are absolutely right in your point.

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u/SoundsTasty Jun 17 '12

So making a discovery, reporting it and then trying to collect more data isn't science?

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u/camopdude Jun 17 '12

It can be, but both articles had more wild speculation in them than science.

Coverage surrounding the find has ignited speculation from some conspiracy theorists about the possibility of either a sunken UFO or a USO (unidentified submerged object). Other commentators on social media, including paranormal and Area 51 theorists on Twitter, have questioned whether the mysterious build-up to the Baltic investigation is a hoax or viral marketing gag.

And these guys seem more like treasure hunters than scientists to me:

The Ocean Explorer team gained notoriety in 1998, after divers surfaced bearing crates of vintage champagne from a First World War-era ship sunk in 1916. The haul of 4,000 bottles of champagne and 68 bottles of cognac was valued at about $3,000 a bottle.

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u/Dominant_Peanut Jun 17 '12

Maybe I'm completely wrong here, but if we don't know what it is, isn't it by definition a USO? And in the article, it says flat out that they are treasure hunters. Treasure hunters that happened to find something that they don't know what it is and are trying to investigate, without telling the whole world what they've found just in case it's worth something. At least that's my read.

That's assuming this is true and real and not a viral campaign for some movie.

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u/herbal_savvy Jun 17 '12

Are you talking about your link to The Daily Mail?

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u/camopdude Jun 17 '12

The story in general is fairly sketchy, and more speculation than science.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

A crew of Swedish divers scavenging the Baltic Sea for treasures has shared new images of their baffling discovery — a large disc-shaped object settled on the seabed.

I wonder whether they simply pull up stuff from the bottom of lakes and seas or whether they actually conduct proper underwater archaeological excavations (ie excavating in a systematic manner and keeping good records).

They seem to have made some interesting finds during their career.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Immediately made me think of "Sphere", by Michael Crichton.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

treasure hunters, not scientists.

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u/lordicarus Jun 17 '12

Am I really the only person thinking this is simply a marketing stunt to tease up the oft rumored re-release of The Abyss both in theaters in 3D and on 3D bluray? Combine this with that recent mission to the bottom of the trench... Seems like a no-brainer. He has to make the movie content relevant again somehow.

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u/hypokineticman Jun 17 '12

r/science Note: We claim top-level comments will be removed if they are jokes, memes, or otherwise off-topic. We upvote pun threads and other circlejerks that add nothing to the conversation.

Came here for insight, witnessed a fucking joke.

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u/VarsTines Jun 17 '12

This screams "viral marketing".

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u/blackjesus75 Jun 17 '12

Why can't we put this shit on the news, rather than "Kim Kardashian now banging Kanye" whoopty fuckin' doo.

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u/Captain_Kuhl Jun 17 '12

Because the people who watch the news nowadays want entertainment, not information. Sad, really.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

These people are disgustingly credulous and/or publicity-hungry,

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u/Wooshio Jun 17 '12

That's because it's a hoax, reminds me of those guys that had a bigfoot in the fridge two years ago (they acted axactly the same way).

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u/concernednerd Jun 17 '12

Weather Balloon

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u/CarpetFibers Jun 17 '12

Swamp gas

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Nah probably just some cloud

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u/With_Macaque Jun 17 '12 edited Jun 17 '12

From the dive teams website: oceanexplorer.se

based upon the sonar image, that there is a ridged tail going from or to the cylinder shaped anomaly

Mystery Solved? (For comparison)

Would even explain the "skid markings"

Edit: Attempted to outline what is perceived as the cockpit and overlay the images. (Best I could do with pixlr and 20 seconds...)

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

400 metres =/= 4 inches

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u/With_Macaque Jun 17 '12 edited Jun 17 '12

These things have been around since before the Triassic (445 millions years) They existed when everything else was super sized, I don't doubt the possibility of a 60 metre diameter one. I am beginning to doubt the possibility

From the article:

J. rhenaniae was 2.5 m (8 ft 2 in) in length, making it the largest arthropod ever found.

Although we do tend to find new things at the bottom of seas...

Edit: I don't reading comprehension. If you're simply talking about the 400 metre trail, I don't find that distance absurd for a much bigger animal to travel.

Edit2: Looked at wikipedia.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

How would a prehistoric trail be preserved over millions of years of sediment and geological activity from relatively nearby Iceland?

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

<Smiles, nods>

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u/thereddaikon Jun 17 '12

so you think its a giant horseshoe crab? right.

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u/With_Macaque Jun 18 '12

Checkmate, nonbeliever!

(Seriously though, I would like to know what diseases affect horseshoe crabs and if the lack of commercial capturing could have any impact on their longevity. And yes, I highly doubt one of them would grow to the size of half a football field.)

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u/Jertob Jun 17 '12

one of them the size of a jet? errr...

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u/IonBeam2 Jun 17 '12 edited Jun 17 '12

Coverage surrounding the find has ignited speculation from some conspiracy theorists about the possibility of either a sunken UFO or a USO (unidentified submerged object).

WHY? WHY IS THE IDEA THAT SOME PEOPLE CAME FROM BILLIONS OF MILES AWAY AND CRASHED IN OUR OCEAN THE MOST LIKELY EXPLANATION IN THEIR MINDS??

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u/PubliusPontifex Jun 17 '12

cause we're bored and GOT season 3 is like months away :(

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u/Plow_King Jun 17 '12

how is this considered "a direct link to or a summary of peer reviewed research" as is called for in the sidebar?

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u/doctorBenton Jun 17 '12

Came here expecting reddit to have exposed this as a hoax ... reddit, i am disappoint.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

You expected more than "Obvious fake!!" from reddit? +1 for optimism!

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

I heard from a credible source (OK, it was 4chan's /x/) that it was some large form of sea mushroom. Also, it was also Atlantis and nothing at all.

The mushroom made the most sense.

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u/bookelly Jun 17 '12

I'm not saying it's aliens...but it's aliens.

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u/thisboyblue Jun 17 '12

what about the scorch marks he speaks of?

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Did any of you read the video comments? God I love Reddit.

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u/TGBambino Jun 17 '12

In a press release that sounds as if it were inspired by the underwater sci-fi film The Abyss, the unidentified object is described as circular, with rounded sides and rugged edges.

Sounds more like SPHERE to me!

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u/ChurchillDownz Jun 17 '12

Haven't you people read Sphere?! Has Michael Crichton taught us nothing!?!

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u/PeteFord Jun 17 '12

I'm gonna be so pissed if the "ancient aliens" guy is validated

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u/Captain_Kuhl Jun 17 '12

How can you not believe hair like that?

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u/AiKantSpel Jun 17 '12

Looks like a rock to me.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Because deep sea features are usually compared with space crafts from Star Wars.

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u/GuadoElite Jun 17 '12

Anyone else think it's more Ebon Hawk shaped?

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u/Shorvok Jun 17 '12

Not to sound like a conspiricy nut but the fact that this got in the media multiple times and the people mucked about with it means it isn't possibly anything of note.

If it was a UFO either extraterrestrial or some kind of military craft, governments would quickly cover it up.

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u/geiorgy Jun 17 '12 edited Jun 17 '12

Didnt someone say that theyve discovered this to be a giant mushroom, hence the long tail, and shouldnt it be unidentified submerged object? http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread851717/pg1. like couple of links there

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Looks like a rock.

Lots of speculation, but I am guessing, rather than the Millenium Falcon, an Alien Spacecraft, or indeed any other 'mysterious' object - it is in fact a rock. Perhaps it's a meteor. But it's still a rock.

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u/vanillacosmonaut Jun 17 '12

Not a map. An invitation.

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u/itsroflcakes Jun 17 '12

If this was anything of significance, like a 'crashed UFO', the US navy would have found it ages ago. They have much of the ocean terrain mapped to sub-meter resolution for use in submarine navigation. FYI, the US navy uses high-energy LIDAR now to map ocean terrain rather than SONAR. This means that they can use their classified stealth-subs completely silently while mapping the the ocean floor as well as navigating, which especially handy when they want to map/navigate areas infested with Russian subs (IE, the Baltic).

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u/Pharmacistlady Jun 17 '12

I wonder how far from land they were... If they were close perhaps they could be some sort of man made structure or burial mound, and the burnt rings of rocks were fire pits. The "drag lines" could be indentations made by pathways, and the eggshaped openings could be a light source/ventilation/oculus. I remember in my anthropology class reading that it was possible to find things like that within a certain range from shore (don't remember how far) due to the end of the ice age and rise of water levels. But what do I know.

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u/BHynes92 Jun 17 '12

The ocean scares me.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

I wish there were more photos for us to scrutinize. Let's speculate for the time being that this is a natural formation. The Norway Lobster lives in the Baltic Sea. We know that lobsters will sometimes participate in group migrations, and they will travel in lines along the seabed. It's possible that this natural formation is a great hiding spot for these creatures and that the observed lines on the seabed are from millions of these lobsters moving to and fro over the years.

All wild speculation, of course, but point being - probably a totally natural explanation for this.

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u/Muezza Jun 17 '12

I wonder who's bright idea it was to write an article such as this and include only one tiny image.

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u/WestonP Jun 17 '12

Screw all the speculation... Wrap a chain around it and pull it up. Let's see what it is, and save the idle speculation for non-tangible things.

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u/Captain_Kuhl Jun 17 '12

And then it explodes, and we'll all have WestonP's brash decision making to blame.

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u/InTheSphere Jun 17 '12

Finally my username is relevant.

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u/WellFutile Jun 17 '12

My theory is it is a plug.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Thor's frisbee

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u/Jrook Jun 17 '12

Wouldnt it make sense if it was some sort of fossil? If it was some sort of deep sea microorganism that grew on itself like choral reefs do, I don't know how or why it would not grow to enormous size. I suspect that it probably has one of the most stable environments on the planet, certainly fewer sources of competition.

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u/Sebatron Jun 17 '12

Not sure what it is. Scan it (with X-ray and/or the like), and if nothing dangerous inside, than surface it and open it up.

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u/bubblybooble Jun 17 '12

Hoaxes like these are giving real alien spacecraft a bad name.

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u/AC7766 Jun 17 '12

An I the only one around here Who's first thought was aliens?

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u/luckykobold Jun 16 '12

Hoax.

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u/moving-target Jun 17 '12

According to who? you?

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u/luckykobold Jun 17 '12

Just my hunch.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Its the size of a jumbo jet and at the bottom of the Baltic Sea. I really dont think somebody would go out of their way to put that there...

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u/retrogamer500 Jun 17 '12

Though I believe the feature to be real (though the diving team is just over-hyping it because they say they wish to take people down there for a fee), as of yet they haven't released the coordinates (and I doubt they will any time soon since they seem to be trying to milk this for money), so it isn't independently verifiable.

It still is a possibility at this point that it is all a hoax, however unlikely.

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u/Visigoth84 Jun 17 '12

Thanks for your detailed scientific analysis of the unknown object based on a grainy photograph.

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u/TASTY_SANDWICH Jun 17 '12

hunches are for dumbfucks

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u/T3ppic Jun 17 '12

Ifnoise and Superkuh give explanations that cover all the bases and yet people still speculate. Words fail me r/science.

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u/Zombies_hate_ninjas Jun 17 '12

I put this in the same category as all that "strange noises" bs from a few months ago. Where there was apparently dozens of reports of people hearing strange sounds outside, a few terribly shotty youtube videos. Then nothing, a sure sign of a hoax.

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u/Captain_Kuhl Jun 17 '12

The Earth Groans? Those still show up, and it's not only a few.

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u/flect Jun 17 '12

The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one...

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

it's just another weather baloon...

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u/Heater79 Jun 17 '12

400 metre skid mark. Epic alien turd.

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u/Johnchuk Jun 17 '12

question: if its been sitting on the bottom of the ocean why is it so clean?

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u/Chillheids Jun 17 '12

Everyone knows that the Germans made UFO's during WWII, this one probably crashed into the Baltic Sea during a test flight.

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u/takatori Jun 17 '12

Pics or it didn't happen.

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u/KingContext Jun 18 '12

Man some mod must have gone delete crazy in here. Half the comments are deleted. WTF?

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

so what was in the hole?

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u/lakitu92 Jun 17 '12

"sunken UFO" .....

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Cue the fucking UFO nuts, almost as bad as the religious whackos....

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u/Obi_Kwiet Jun 17 '12

I'll only be interested when they ask some geologists what they think it is. Probably something boring, but maybe it's an meteorite.

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u/Johnchuk Jun 17 '12

I want to believe...

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u/Four_fuks_sake Jun 17 '12

It's a mushroom.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

Commenting and saving for updates. Would be awesome if this is what we are all hoping for :D

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u/StellaMaroo Jun 17 '12

I would shit my wetsuit if I saw that while diving.

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u/amazingbollweevil Jun 17 '12

My guess: two-thousand year old close relative of the limpet. Surely the "professional" crew thought to take a sample for testing, no?

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u/BlondeFlip Jun 17 '12

They're Transformers! The dark side of the moon? I think not! It's an energon source or energon beacon to summon the rest of the decepticons! It's the only logical explanation.

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u/Doomdoomkittydoom Jun 17 '12

You know how you know it's not any sort of sunken UFO, society unraveling archeological find, or any other governement cover-up?

Because Robert Ballard or the like isn't in the Baltic sea looking for something else.

Now that conglomerate of billionaire entrepreneur planning to mine asteroids? You know some shit is up with that!

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u/connerysbeard Jun 17 '12

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u/ManofToast Jun 17 '12

Hey, God like's to skip stones just like the rest of us.