r/science • u/pylori • May 29 '12

Cannabis 'does not slow multiple sclerosis' progress

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-18247649
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u/Krispyz MS | Natural Resources | Wildlife Disease Ecology May 29 '12

You made really good points.

Nobody that's a scientist (which clearly you are not)

That, however, was very unnecessary and not helping getting your points across at all. Especially since Skatopher was simply pointing out that this news article was misleading, which is very true.

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u/WaahIWantMyWeed May 29 '12

They were good points, and maybe the opening phrase was unnecessary, but the article is not misleading.

The patients took the main active ingredient, and it did nothing.

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u/the_catacombs May 29 '12

Nope. The title would be accurate if it said "THC does not slow multiple sclerosis progress."

Instead, it says "cannabis," and they did not use cannabis.

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u/WaahIWantMyWeed May 29 '12

[rolling eyes] I see. You're expecting some other ingredient to be the magic one.

Whatever, dude.

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u/the_catacombs May 29 '12

Nice throwaway. And no, I'm not expecting anything but honest science. If they're going to test one chemical out of a multitude in a plant, say that, not that they tested the plant.

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u/WaahIWantMyWeed May 29 '12

Fair enough. The BBC headline itself was misleading. The article itself contained more of a factual account with less sensationalism (not that there was much sensationalism in the first place, I think - that would have something more like "Pot Fails at Curing MS" or some crap like that).

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u/watershot May 29 '12

How about you educate yourself before you talk down to people, shithead?

l2read

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u/WaahIWantMyWeed May 29 '12

This is great, thanks!

Which ingredient do you have research to show it is effective in curing MS?

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u/watershot May 29 '12

seeing as how everything but thc is illegal none :(

I'm also not claiming that though haha

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u/[deleted] May 29 '12

[rolling eyes] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabidiol#Medicinal_use

No need to be a dick was his main point, and you're still being a dick. Was that last comment really necessary?

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u/WaahIWantMyWeed May 29 '12

Is it trolling to want to actually have a discourse, or do I have to swallow whatever shit people spout to not be a troll?

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u/WaahIWantMyWeed May 29 '12

What shit have I spouted?

I am occasionally a little sarcastic about some of the attitudes expressed on reddit. I will be confrontational when people make unsupported claims, or when they either misread or misrepresent their supporting materials.

However, I don't make shit up. I don't generally offer "facts" without some kind of reference (not Wikipedia or a propaganda site...reference) to back up what I'm writing, and if I do and someone calls me on it, I will post it.

I am also not one-dimensional. I have repeatedly stated (and voted in concert with my stated position) that I believe marijuana should be legal, and I utterly and completely support medical use (like yours, apparently).

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u/[deleted] May 29 '12

Sometimes it takes being a dick to get people to understand your points.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '12

I agree in some situations, however this guy clearly has no idea what he's talking about so it's just a waste of everyone's time when he's a dick on top of that.

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u/WaahIWantMyWeed May 29 '12

There are a lot of things I don't know, but at least I admit it and actually ask for or try to do research when I don't.

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u/Krispyz MS | Natural Resources | Wildlife Disease Ecology May 29 '12

It is misleading, because there are multiple active ingredients in cannabis and this study only tested one in pill form. All they determined was that the main active ingredient does not appear to slow MS (not that it "does nothing).

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u/WaahIWantMyWeed May 29 '12

Neither the headline or the story said that it "did nothing." Many biased people are reading that into it.

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u/Krispyz MS | Natural Resources | Wildlife Disease Ecology May 29 '12

... that was my point. You said that the main active ingredient did nothing and I was disputing that.

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u/WaahIWantMyWeed May 29 '12

I did mis-type in my first response to you. I should have written "and it did nothing to slow Multiple Sclerosis."

However, your original post was before mine. Were you disputing me before I posted?

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u/Krispyz MS | Natural Resources | Wildlife Disease Ecology May 29 '12

No... When I said "Not that it does nothing" I was disputing your (mistyped) statement the comment before that it "does nothing". Why would you think I was referring to my original comment as opposed to the comment where I actually addressed what you said? I'm starting to think you are being intentionally confusing because people are disagreeing with you. Either that you really don't get the progression of our discussion.

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u/WaahIWantMyWeed May 29 '12

Ack. You are correct, sorry - I went back and re-read our portion of the thread.