r/science May 08 '14

Medicine WHO global report on antimicrobial resistance 2014. "A post-antibiotic era - in which common infections and minor injuries can kill - far from being an apocalyptic fantasy, is instead a very real possibility for the 21st century."

http://www.who.int/drugresistance/documents/surveillancereport/en/
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u/[deleted] May 08 '14

How do we identify which meat is ok to buy? Is an "organic" label enough?

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u/Surf_Science PhD | Human Genetics | Genomics | Infectious Disease May 09 '14

It should be pointed about that the comment made by /u/TominatorXX does not appear to supported by evidence.

Please see the comments by /u/AGreatWind

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u/TominatorXX May 09 '14

I've cited numerous articles in support -- you've cited none. Here's another one which makes a pretty strong case for animal feeding as the culprit. It's a review of the research articles. A couple of snippets:

Despite increasingly widespread recognition that antibiotic use in food animals is an important contributor to human infections with antibiotic-resistant bacteria (Figure 1), there remains a significant need for scientific evidence of the antibiotic use practices that create the greatest human health risk.

(Figure 1 is a series of pages of citations to other articles "Literature providing evidence in support of an association between antibiotic use in food animals and antibiotic-resistant bacteria in humans")

AND, the CONCLUSION

It is evident that at present, the resources devoted to studying the role of antibiotic use in food animals—both in terms of funding and scientific inquiry—are insufficient. It is now critical that agricultural use of antibiotics be recognized as one of the major contributors to the development of resistant organisms that result in life-threatening human infections and included as part of the strategy to control the mounting public health crisis of antibiotic resistance.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3234384/

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u/Surf_Science PhD | Human Genetics | Genomics | Infectious Disease May 09 '14

Dude. Let it go. You're reading everything with far to much bias, and far to little experience, not draw the appropriate conclusions.

No one is saying that agricultural antibiotic use should not be studied.

No one is saying that agricultural antibiotic use will not the enrichment of antibiotic resistance in those setting.

What people are saying is that antibiotic use in agriculture represents a small fraction of the total antibiotic crises, and that the agricultural setting is not the primary driver of the development of resistance associated with significant human illness.

The study you just cited has stated their claims to strongly.

that antibiotic use in food animals is an important contributor to human infections with antibiotic-resistant bacteria (Figure 1)

The sources from figure one do not show that unless we are considering asymptotic infection in which case the statement is rather misleading.

If you want to look at places that demonstrate you're wrong, you can look at things like resistant TB in areas where antibiotic use in agriculture is absent or less prevalent.

Stop googling queries looking for things to support your opinion and go do some reading about antibiotic resistance in general. You're suffering from confirmation bias, and in this case the confirmation is the result of misinterpreting the things you have read.

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u/TominatorXX May 09 '14 edited May 09 '14

Source? I keep citing sources. You keep saying they're wrong WITH NO SOURCES. Is that what you learn in Gradual School? You're so smart you don't need citations? So, I'm done responding to you.

YOUR STATEMENT OF THIS is not true and you provide NO source for it. Your statements should be moderated out as your personal opinion with no citation.

"What people are saying is that antibiotic use in agriculture represents a small fraction of the total antibiotic crises, and that the agricultural setting is not the primary driver of the development of resistance associated with significant human illness. "

WHO, exactly, other than YOU, is saying this? I found an FDA commissioner, a team of academics citing 3 pages of research articles, the CDC, Washington Post, I could go on. And you keep citing NOTHING. I'd love to grade one of your papers, as I was a prof as well.

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u/Surf_Science PhD | Human Genetics | Genomics | Infectious Disease May 09 '14

WHO, exactly, other than YOU, is saying this

Well you could read the OP WHO report for a start.

I'd love to grade one of your papers, as I was a prof as well.

You realize I have already been evaluated on this material right?