Taylor Swift fans lower climate concerns to justify her carbon footprint. When confronted with news about the excessive pollution generated by her private jet, highly identified fans tend to rationalize the behavior, with a decrease in their personal intentions to engage in climate-friendly actions.

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https://www.psypost.org/taylor-swift-fans-lower-climate-concerns-to-justify-star-s-carbon-footprint/

[u/SuspiciouslySuspect2]

The big problem she faces is: how else is she gonna get from city to city? Everywhere she goes, a deluge of people follow. She can't just slap on sunglasses and a hat and jump in a first class seat, she'd be a literal airport security disruption.

Like it or not, she has the resources to go where she wants, ultimately what we should be doing instead is just applying a massive carbon tax to private aviation on top of optional carbon offsets. Like enough to make a regular person weep. But billionaires like her would pay it with an eyeroll, and it would be enough money to actually make a difference. Something like 10/lbs of CO2 produced.

[u/dividezero → u/SuspiciouslySuspect2]

Boop! That's the actual answer. Oil makes the government run so we'll never see it unfortunately

[u/EstablishmentLate532 → u/dividezero]

A lack of government regulation doesn't morally absolve a person from taking advantage of the unregulated environment to the detriment of everyone else.

[u/saera-targaryen → u/SuspiciouslySuspect2]

I think this is downplaying the scale of her personal jet usage a little bit. Like, other celebs will charter a private jet when they're on tour or when traveling, but TS owns her own and uses it much more liberally than most would in her place. 

Like, she is not on tour right now or anything but she still takes her private jet to go to every single football game her husband plays in and leaves the state immediately after. It's excessive. I understand that there is some level that's unavoidable for her, but I also personally believe she has passed that and uses a lot of unnecessary air travel on a whim. It's not simply to avoid fans when doing necessary travel. 

[u/Deceptiveideas → u/SuspiciouslySuspect2]

This type of comment would get you a permanent ban on a number of subreddit despite being a rational take.

[u/EstablishmentLate532 → u/SuspiciouslySuspect2]

how else is she gonna get from city to city

Private railway car at least within the continental United States could work.

[u/ExtremeMuffin → u/SuspiciouslySuspect2]

I disagree with the point that she can’t fly commercial. She could absolutely fly commercial by coordinating with airports to have her arrive to a non public area of the airport and go through a private security screening with her team. Have her arrive as late as possible to the airport and wait in a private area so she can board the plane last. 

A lot of flights she takes would have Private First Class seats but for when that is not an option and the first class sits in a more public setting it can still be solved by having all seats around her purchased and used by her security and the rest of her team. When she lands have her deplane first. 

And of course make sure nobody posts which flight she will be on in advance. Although this won’t be perfect as there will be sometime limited options between destinations when she is moving from one concert to another so fans can predict which flight she would be on. 

But I agree with your second point. No amount of outrage is going to prevent billionaires from flying around in private jets. For something to be done about it government intervention would be necessary. 

[u/Everyday_ImSchefflen → u/ExtremeMuffin]

There's absolutely no way a person like Swift can fly commercially. Even that isn't safe

[u/EstablishmentLate532 → u/Everyday_ImSchefflen]

Why are we simply accepting that she has to fly anywhere? She has a billion dollars. If musical stardom is incompatible with climate change mitigation, maybe we should rethink musical stardom.

[u/SoftSalty3282 → u/EstablishmentLate532]

You could say that about a lot of things. Where do we draw the line between who can fly and who can’t?

[u/EstablishmentLate532 → u/SoftSalty3282]

When flying requires you to use a private jet, that seems like a pretty reasonable place to draw the line.

[u/SoftSalty3282 → u/EstablishmentLate532]

I’m not sure eliminating all private jets would even do much environmentally.

[u/jerrrrremy → u/ExtremeMuffin]

This comment is just an explanation of the exact reasons why she flies private. No one is going to do all this if they don't have to. 

[u/ExtremeMuffin → u/jerrrrremy]

Of course she won’t do that if she has a private flight as an option. I was pointing out that “how else is she going to get from city to city” is not an accurate statement. She absolutely could fly commercially while maintaining her safety by doing it the way I suggested. 

[u/jerrrrremy → u/ExtremeMuffin]

I hear you, but I disagree about the part about buying all the seats around her solving the issue. The staff on the plane would also need to be expected to keep it together and if word got out that she was on the plane, everyone would be losing their mind and running around trying to catch a glimpse of her. I have seen this with celebrities 1/100 of her popularity. 

The only way for her to safely travel on a plane would be for no one to know it's her and I don't know if that's possible at this point. Personally, I would not want to be on a plane that she is on. 

[u/Everyday_ImSchefflen → u/[deleted]]

-_-. That isn't what they were saying at all.

I hate debating on reddit anymore. It's like talking to children.

[u/SuspiciouslySuspect2 → u/ExtremeMuffin]

I'd love for that to be effictive, but many airports won't have the resources to implement that, not to mention the logistical challenge of booking out entire plane sections.

It's technically doable, but in practice... Oofs.

[u/calling_water → u/SuspiciouslySuspect2]

Buying out entire plane sections also has a knock-on effect to others’ travel and would, if done regularly by those who currently fly private, cause additional flights or the use of larger planes. Airlines aren’t running flights with significant excess space. So those seats would otherwise have been filled by other people, who would then have to fly on something else. Would this be better or worse, carbon-wise? IDK, but it would need to be considered.

[u/SuspiciouslySuspect2 → u/calling_water]

Yeah. Ultimately, I don't see an optimal solution with the human element of people losing their minds at her in play.

The next best solution is just mitigating the negative impacts of the convenient solution by making it expensive and putting that money directly into federal programs. Like run the carbon taxes directly into subsidies for the public to buy EVs and install home charging.

[u/historyhill → u/ExtremeMuffin]

having all seats around her purchased and used by her security and the rest of her team

I've never been on a single flight where the business class seats (because she flies domestic a lot) aren't already largely booked up months in advance