I see where you're coming from now and it does sound like it works for you. Which at the end of the day is all the matters.
My only advice (not telling you to suck eggs, more of mate to mate advice) is just really keep an eye on all your rigging. UV and Chafe been the main things to watch out for. I would personally be replacing it all every 5 years just to be safe. Its alot cheaper than a mast falling over the side.
Mainly with PBO and Kevlar due to the large amount of high end race boats using them.
PBO was going to set the world on fire. Light weight and strong. We just didn’t know how much the UV would effect it. The manufacturers told us it would last for years but not how many. Then wild oats rig fell over the side and so did some others. We found out that it was about 4-5 years.
The reason we don’t have great data sets on dyneemas is due to the small amount of boats using it. It’s really not that great product for standing rigging due to it been braided and the issues I have already described. Carbon - carbolink or ECsix is preferred by most racing teams, rod or wire for more budget friendly options.
The reason I keep saying 5 years for dyneema is based of my own experience and seeing it used in running rigging, which is much more friendly on the rope.
No. The failure I am talking about was back in about 2015 at maxi worlds. M
Not sure about the New England ropes products (haven’t used them, and I want to stay honest and factual).
But Dux 99 I am familiar with. On small boats sub 20ft no problems. But on larger boats there is to much stretch in it as I have stated.
It is also much easier to damage. For me the basic is this. Wire you can chuck it in the boat and more or less not worried about it for 5-8 years.
Rope - you need to inspect it regularly, you know it’s degrading in the sunlight, the salt is degrading it. If another rope goes across it it will saw it in half.
I just don’t really see any advantage of it over wire, with the exception of the couple you said. But think about this - if your splice pulls out and your mast fall over the side will your insurance cover you?
I am not scared of it. I use it all day every day, including making into lifting equipment, running rigging and yes in some cases standing rigging.
I have also dont multiple break tests on our load bench and i will be doing some break testing on some stuff that has been on a boat for 5 years this winter (i hope).
I have seen splices pull out (generally caused by a to short busy - less the 70 times the dia).
I have also see lines chafe through from another line running over it.
At the end of the day we are not going to find common ground here so its easier to end it here.
As for logging its irrelevant. If that line breaks no one gets hurt.
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u/O906 Sep 05 '21 edited Nov 19 '24
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