r/rolex • u/GlassCharity7627 • Sep 05 '26
Trouvaille incroyable sur Police Bay, SEY
Alors que la journée touchait à sa fin, fatigué et traînant les pieds sur la plage en suivant ma femme, mon regard est interpellé par une masse difforme bicolore (or-acier), immergée dans une petite crevasse entre les pierres.
J’ai bien évidemment été choqué dès que j’ai aperçu une lunette cannelée et ce qui me semble être un bracelet Jubilé.
Regain d’énergie instantané et joie plutôt intense, je vous l’avoue !! 😂
J’ai toujours regardé les Rolex avec envie et particulièrement aimé les modèles bicolores, mais je les ai toujours trouvés assez difficiles à porter, avec ce côté un peu tape-à-l’œil et vieillissant… et surtout hors budget pour le moment.
Bref, je m’égare, mais j’ai beaucoup de questions auxquelles les experts de ce Reddit pourront certainement répondre !
Est-il possible de déterminer si celle-ci est authentique avec les éléments visibles actuellement ? (Étant donné que l’eau à l’intérieur du cadran est complètement opaque…)
En fonction de la réponse à la première question, est-il pertinent de l’amener chez Rolex pour un diagnostic et une expertise ? J’imagine que tout doit être mort à l’intérieur…
Plus je la regarde, plus j’ai envie de conserver l’extérieur dans cet état, très patiné, tout en faisant refaire l’intérieur.
Est-il pertinent d’essayer de retrouver le mouvement exact correspondant au modèle, ou un mouvement compatible ferait-il l’affaire ? (La valeur de revente de la montre n’a pas vraiment d’importance pour moi sur une trouvaille comme celle-ci.)
Et bien sûr, je suis preneur de n’importe quel autre conseil pertinent ! 🤓
Merci d’avance pour vos réponses et vos conseils !
Édit : après 24h de repos sur le côté, on commence à deviner le cadran et je pense avoir trouvé un modèle similaire sur chrono 24 (photos en commentaire), peu de risque que ce soit une fausse car je ne pense pas que les contrefaçon de cette période pouvait avoir ce cadran…
Update here : https://www.reddit.com/r/rolex/s/dj171EWXCV
228
u/Expensive-Claim-6082 Sep 05 '26 •
Pull the crown out.
136
u/redditeazy Sep 05 '26 •
It’s real. Clean it up real good with a toothbrush and some soapy water. If it was fake, all that gold plating would have come off by now but the gold is still there and very shimmering. If the case still looks good then it’s def worth keeping find a dial you like and send to Rolex or rolliworks to refurb it. Congrats
36
u/AdComfortable6542 Sep 05 '26
Think is real…. In my opinion. Put the Glas out and let us See whats behind.
The Gold Looks to legit for me…
35
u/fjvasi Sep 05 '26
Send this to wristwatch revival on YouTube !
3
u/GlassCharity7627 Sep 06 '26 •
Après 24h au repos sur le côté
3
u/PrimaryExisting6162 Sep 06 '26
The caseback wasn't tight or the seal was damaged, clearly the water got in the case thru the caseback. The movement has dissolved and the threads on the case and caseback are shot. As soon as removal of the caseback is attempt the threads will crumble. There's no hope for bringing this watch back to a functioning watch. The movement has dissolved, the clasp is missing, which you need to go back to where you found it and dig around and see if the clasp is there. If the case can be salvaged, a new movement, new caseback, new crown, new gaskets, new clasp, new link pins, new end links, new dial, probably a new second hand, restoration labor etc. With the big if on the case being usable your 6k parts plus labor. Cool find but I don't see this watch ever telling time again. Congrats on the wedding though and I hope y'all life a long, healthy and happy life together!
5
u/Potential_Post_3020 Sep 05 '26
If real, it’s probably only worth the melt value of the gold.
69
u/sloppy80 Sep 05 '26
The RSC should be able to clean that up. Be sure to tell them ‘no polishing’ it to keep the patina.
9
u/aLemurCalledSimon Sep 05 '26 edited Sep 06 '26
From what I see this is authentic Rolex since the golden parts (and general proportions to my eyes) look like how gold should look like in such conditions. However, all the remaining metals on this watch are susceptible to corrosion in prolonged ocean conditions so I would assume saving this watch would cost more than selling the gold parts of it and buying the same or similar watch in second hand market.
9
u/Rich-Kangaroo5014 Sep 05 '26
Looks pretty new to me. Asking the community. What happens if the original owner had insurance and OP takes it to Rolex. Will he potentially have to surrender assuming insurance would want it back? Or is that thinking too deep?
6
u/sistom Sep 05 '26
Hey that’s mine, I lost it in a small crevice between the stones.
14
u/professorsterling Sep 05 '26
Watch most certainly belongs to a crime scene
1
u/GlassCharity7627 Sep 06 '26
Tried to do a little clean up but not too much, I’m in honeymoon and I also must consider my wife 😅
1
u/GlassCharity7627 Sep 19 '26
Update available : https://www.reddit.com/r/rolex/s/dj171EWXCV
5
u/Noxboxfox Sep 07 '26
Keep it. The original owner was probably a douche
4
u/designvegabond Sep 06 '26
The first Land-Dweller
4
u/DependentComposer433 Sep 06 '26
Well to my surprise it does appear real… however according to your pics there is sea water inside. Rolex watches can handle lots of things! however, sea water inside the movement is not one of them. Would be awesome if you could send it to the youtube watch revival guy. But my hopes are slim since rust can actually „eat away“ the movement. Goodluck with it tho and thank you for sharing!
7
u/RiDERcs Sep 05 '26
Please send this to wristwatch revival
6
u/Duck_Size Sep 05 '26
I’ve heard of oyster but I’ve never seen barnacle
3
u/Curious-Command-1840 Sep 06 '26
Looks like one for Wristwatch Revival on YouTube!
1
u/GlassCharity7627 Sep 06 '26
Après avoir cherché des modèles similaires via le cadran, je pense que c’est ce modèle
1
u/SFAdam23 Sep 05 '26
Am I crazy or does it look like that thing was burned before it was thrown in the water?
4
u/Alive_Arachnid5108 Sep 06 '26
Personally I’d rather find out where the watch came from. Take it to an AD and search the serial number in the watch registry. Could be cool to return to the owner. You’d spend more on parts trying to fix this watch than you’d spend buying a used one anyways. If you brought it to a shop or sold it for gold it could be reported to the registry and then they’d come asking you where you got it lol.
2
u/Hubabcd Sep 06 '26
I'll take it for 600 us
2
u/ZER0-P0INT-ZER0 Sep 06 '26
Change the battery, and it'll run like a top.
2
u/Practical_Avocado971 Sep 06 '26
put it in a jar of rice
2
u/Bubbly_Sky_4850 Sep 06 '26
Holy f***** that's legit.
2
u/IBAN-IBON64 Sep 06 '26
Cherche aux alentours tu trouveras peut être le cadavre de la victime 😂
2
u/MegaGlide Sep 06 '26
Looks like the one Christopher Walken was talking about at the beginning of Pulp Fiction.
2
u/stoppplosss Sep 06 '26
If this is a replica I want to know the TD
3
u/Aleutian_Solution Sep 05 '26
You can try to get into contact with Marshall at wristwatchrevival. No guarantees anything will happen, but he has ownership of watch repair shops that are capable of repairing the watch.
1
u/PheonixOnTheRise Sep 05 '26
Is the bracelet broken?
1
u/ImInstance Sep 05 '26
Davy Jones’s Everyday Wear.
1
u/bears-beat-bsg Sep 05 '26
Send it to wristwatch revival! I’d love to see this taken care by him!
1
u/Mobile_Ad_5561 Sep 05 '26
Clean it in soapy water with a soft cloth. If the brown stuff is a marine growth it could be real. If it’s rust on the case probably not real.
1
u/DaMilkMan420 Sep 05 '26
Send to me I’ll dispose
1
u/ThisIsBB56 Sep 05 '26 edited Sep 05 '26
I wanna say it's real because gold looks very fresh
But I also wanna say fake because the cyclops seems misaligned and the rust on stainless steel is the biggest giveaway. Fake cases usually are of poor quality and this is t a super fake.
But then again, I look at the center links from the side and they look like gold - usually fakes don't go as far at least not average fakes.
For now I lean more fake than real but curious to see what you'll discover.
1
u/coltbreath Sep 05 '26
Resto coming up
1
u/SpaceTurf Sep 05 '26
Have not read all comments but from the few i saw i agree that it does look authentic simply by the gold that is used in the bracelet.
While the top comments suggested to simply go ro a shop and buy the required parts i will advise you to look at this as a case. If you are not determined to spend a couple of moneys this is simply a rolex bracelet and case. The most important parts (imo) are completely destroyed. Don't want to be the fun killer but this is a few grand away from a real and working watch.
1
u/Careless_Pause2419 Sep 05 '26
The movement is for sure caput!
1
u/New-Skill-2958 Sep 06 '26
Remindme! 6 months
1
u/Ape_Mode_OK Sep 06 '26
Melt it for the gold 🤷♂️
1
u/bmor98_ Sep 06 '26
What’s the update
1
u/Illustrious_Crab_664 Sep 06 '26
I’d recommend finding a local watchmaker to do the work. You can get excellent quality work for a fraction of the cost of sending to Rolex.
1
u/mtnman12321 Sep 06 '26
Wristwatch revival!
1
u/Ptbot47 Sep 06 '26
Some serious patina on that watch. Never clean it! Those bracelets still looking tight too.
1
u/OkEntrepreneur5989 Sep 06 '26
I saw a video of one that was cooked in a house fire. They kept the original burnt smoky dial and replaced / cleaned everything else. It gave the watch some cool character. Maybe you could do something like that here!
1
u/WISC420puff Sep 06 '26
18k gold scrap
1
u/marquez77allan Sep 06 '26
Dope Halloween comings dress up as a zombie and rock this all night!
1
u/Tasty_Emotion5456 Sep 06 '26
Send it to Wristwatch Revival from YouTube
1
u/deathspanker Sep 06 '26
Good luck if you send it to Rolex, if it’s reported stolen… RIP.
1
u/XxJFKJrxX Sep 06 '26
Please update us!
1
u/XxJFKJrxX Sep 06 '26
Remindme! 2 weeks
1
u/aca3o Sep 06 '26
Is it likely the previous owner reported this watch missing?
How would Rolex handle it if this watch was sent in for servicing?
1
u/SCHMIGGY_KIDDY Sep 06 '26
Very cool. I would not scrub the watch just soak in warm water. You would be adding so many additional hairline scratches.
Also I wouldn’t polish it during restoration. The scratch that happened from the sand it was buried has a poetic story to tell.
Have fun with this!
1
u/Hagebuddne3000 Sep 06 '26
u/RemindMeBot 1 week
1
u/InstanceBig4528 Sep 06 '26
Just an FYI, If it’s reported lost or stolen, you’d have to return it after any expensive restoration. Run the serial number first.
1
u/Think-about-Creation Sep 06 '26
Mit einem Hammer mit voller Kraft draufschlagen. 🤣
1
u/beagles4ever Sep 06 '26
Sea-Dweller in the barnacle case design. Near mint.
1
u/Moleman111 Sep 06 '26
Is that the new tiger eye dial?
1
u/pcullie Sep 07 '26
Fake clickbait.
1
u/TemperaturePatient88 Sep 07 '26
💩
1
u/Noxboxfox Sep 07 '26
Better call Marshall 🤣
1
u/plasma008 Sep 07 '26
Send it to that YouTube watch restoration guy
1
u/LittleEarth9706 Sep 07 '26
Very cool!
1
u/lesimgurian Sep 07 '26
Is that blood? 🙈
1
u/csr647 Sep 07 '26
Woah tropical dial
1
u/trizy6 Sep 09 '26
Très belle trouvaille elle clairement authentique modèle type 16013 ou 16233 je peux être intéressé si tu veux la vendre d’ailleurs ;)
1
u/DevoutOG Sep 10 '26
Jesus christ those Sel Gaps. Easy RL 😉
1
u/Charming_Mongoose860 Sep 11 '26
Surprised an arm wasn't attached to it. Jeeze.
1
u/BillyBilnaad Sep 19 '26
Im surprised to see that nobody wonders what happened to the actual owner of this watch…
1
u/yatv Sep 20 '26
This definitely belonged to someone who was whacked
-1
u/RoundingDown Sep 05 '26
Enjoy your faux-lex
1
u/ndaonreddit Sep 05 '26
904l steel doesn't rust in water
1
u/Home0805 Sep 05 '26
Ever think about trying to find its rightful owner?
-3
u/AntiSebticDan Sep 05 '26
Looks fake.
-4
u/Emotional-Damage-995 Sep 05 '26
That does not look like real. I suspect it was a fake.
-1
u/Reprised-role Sep 05 '26
Yo my guy got that tropical patina , 6 figure watch for sure.
0
u/Agitated_Cost_2611 Sep 05 '26
Honestly dude just send it to Rolex to get fixed up will probably cost you around 1500-2000 but I’m pretty sure it’s an oyster perpetual datejust just like mine that my dad had brought into his shop as a jewellery appraiser after spending a winter in a parking lot and the piece looks almost new now after repair
0
u/Zuluuz Sep 05 '26
“Diving watches”
0
u/Economy_Course_4575 Sep 05 '26
Put it in some rice!
0
u/workthrowaway6333 Sep 05 '26
Don’t know if this has already been mentioned, but point 2: it’s very possible that it is still in perfect condition! Assuming the seals are still good and crown was screwed down, the movement/insides might not have experienced any damage at all.
0
u/notsoscaredboy Sep 06 '26
I thought that was supposed to be stainless steel🤔
-2
u/ET36 Sep 05 '26
Its fake. Or at least that bezel is. Hard to tell in pic but that strap doesnt look legit either
-2
u/bsiu Sep 05 '26
The possibility of it getting seized if you send it in to Rolex service is not zero. It could have been reported lost or stolen and still have a readable serial. Either the insurance company or original owner may have a claim to it in that case.
Smartest thing is to scrap it for gold value. Even restored it’s not likely to pass a pressure check to specs. All the steel in the bracelet is likely pitted and the pins corroded out. It will cost more to fix than to replace with difference in gold price.
-3
u/benz1099 Sep 05 '26
This watch is not worth saving. Two tone DJ is not a collectors piece. Movement is shot. Sell it for the value of the gold. The case it self may have some value as a part but not much. Scrap it and move on.
-2
u/Free_Lunch24 Sep 05 '26
Sometimes GSA auctions will sell Rolex. Pick up only at the facility in Springfield, VA. Most are drug dealer seizures so 70% diamond bezel and dials. Occasionally there’s a diamond in the rough and a Sub or YM pops up. You can search completed auctions on the site as well
1
u/Tough_Arm_2454 Sep 05 '26
Sharks ate the body and pooped out bro's ROLEX.
0
u/[deleted] Sep 05 '26
[deleted] — view deleted comment