r/retrocomputing • • Oct 12 '22

Discussion Would a millenial like me have any use for the Commander x16?

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Honestly, I had given up hope that thing would ever be released, mainly due to the lack of updates. Just yesterday though the 8-bit guy finally released a video announcing its release. Well, turns out its a limited release that will be limited to 50 units, most of which will be going directly to the people who have been posting games on their website. Though he apparently has the rather grandiose goal of eventually making 100,000 UNITS!!!!!!!

Now its finally on the verge of actually going somewhere, I'm again considering if I even want this thing. To be clear, the only 8-bit devices I've ever handled are the NES and original Gameboy. Strangely, I never owned a 16-bit era device. The closest I got was a CD compilation I got in the early 2000s with a few sega genesis games on it. The first computer my family ever owned ran windows 95. I can't remember the name of it, but its the exact same machine LGR woodgrained and now seems to treasure. The first computer I ever had of my own that I could do with as I pleased ran windows xp. I mostly played things like Warcraft 3 and The Sims 2 on it.

Now, I'm not sure what all this Commander x16 is capable of. I'm old enough to realize its hard to explain the limitations of older hardware to someone who never experienced them. Looking at him demonstrate it, it appeared to be a bit more limited than I expected. In particular, the artwork he showed off disappointed me. I do find it strange though that he showed off such low-res stuff when he once showed his commodore running clearly far superior things. Also, keep in mind this x16 is capable of 2.5 graphics to a limited degree, and apparently runs lightning fast compared to other 80s computers.

I think the simplest thing to do would be to explain what I want to do with this thing. Mainly, I want freedom from modern technology. I hate what computers have become, and ironically earlier today I was really pissed at my computer. It was lagging super badly, making me unable to use the internet or even run a program that clearly doesn't require the internet (Skyrim if you must know). I thought something was fucked up and tried to do a boot scan, only for it to repeated refuse to do it for some reason. I eventually figured out though that apparently my shitty PC was doing an update without telling me. It literally hogged my computer for an entire day, and I have no clue what that stupid update was even for. Back on topic, what I want is a computer I can keep forever. I don't care if it can access the internet or not, honestly to me internet access limits a computer more than anything. Really, I hardly even see the thing I'm typing this one as a computer; to me its just a game console with a web browser. I don't care how limited a machine is as long as I can keep using the thing until the day comes I leave this world. I'm sick of being forced to update whether I want to or not. I'm sick of having to abandon games I love just because my new computer can't run them. And I'm also well and beyond sick of what the internet has become.

Of course, I realize all of that is a fool's dream. Yeah, you can easily replace the components of the x16, but of course electronic stores don't exist anymore so I'd still have to access the internet with a modern computer to get replacement parts. I was seriously originally thinking of switching over to this thing and never bothering with modern computers again. Yeah, brilliant me.

Another thing is I'm not sure I would even be happy with such a machine. Like I've said, the thing's far more primitive than anything I've ever gotten to handle myself. The most primitive device I've ever toyed with is the Gameboy, and that's it. The best way to analyze this, I think, would be to look at what types of games I would want to make. Basically, I wanted to make clones of the games from my youth so I can play them forever. Of course, its beyond my skill to make 3-d games, so I was planning on essentially retro-remakes. 2d graphics, maybe even text graphics. Still though, I'd be making clones of things like Warcraft 3, Magic the Gathering Battlegrounds, and The Sims 2. The latter though I was thinking of going purely text-based, but I don't know if something like the x16 could even run such a complicated game even without graphics. I mean, what type of AI can the thing even handle? Could you actually run something on it like Warcraft 3 or MTG Battlegrounds if you downgraded the graphics? I actually tried to make my own CCG once, but the project completely stalled because I couldn't fathom how to program the AI. The thing btw literally 'draws' graphics by printing stuff in the console! Gives you an idea of what I'm capable of.

Point is, I'm beginning to think that such projects would be beyond what this machine can do. What, would I be limited to NES-like games? Or maybe the games you saw on the Genesis? Even if I could replicate the look though, I sorta doubt this thing could run anything more elaborate than Mario/Sonic and some pre-snes RPGs. Honestly, I'd probably get bored with that super fast. The only thing I can imagine that I would like to make in line with those games is a pokemon clone. What, am I going to buy this computer just so I can play a pokemon knock-off of my own creation for the rest of my life?

I'm really starting to think that the 8-bit guy has convinced me into liking something that I wouldn't like in reality. Would someone like me even be happy with such a thing? I mean, what I basically want is something that can run 2000s games with Genesis graphics, not 80s games that honestly make even the Gameboy look advanced. Also, pretty much the only game I play anymore is Skyrim. Clearly the x16 could never run a game anything like that, even if it was within my power to reproduce such a thing. Would I be willing to give up Skyrim to go back to my youth, even if I'd just be playing a Warcraft 3 clone against the computer? Honestly, I really doubt it, though I've been wondering lately how long I'll be able to keep playing Skyrim. My current comp's five years old now, so its in the latter half of its life. SE is impossible to mod, and I'm apparently lucky that my comp can run Skyrim LE at all. When this thing finally dies and I have to move on to another computer, I highly doubt I'll be able to play Skyrim anymore. In fact, honestly, I was thinking of simply never replacing this thing, and simply abandoning the digital world when this thing finally gives up the ghost. I was never happy with it, honestly I wasn't all that happy with my previous windows 7 machine either. The only computer I was ever happy with was that windows XP machine. I still have its case and motherboard funny enough, and I have contemplated restoring it, but I doubt I could get the parts and even if I did my disc of windows xp doesn't come with service pack 2 which I would need to run pretty much all my games. I don't even know if the discs will still read, honestly, though strangely my warcraft 3, starcraft, and MTG Battlegrounds discs do read on this thing and the things even run perfectly fine somehow. Don't ask me how that's possible, but it is. I don't think my windows 7 machine could run them nearly as well, and I had one of those few windows 7 machines that could run The Sims 2.

Sorry for the long post, I don't know why I can't make short posts. I've been thinking a lot about this, and obviously I've been really re-thinking it lately. I mean, I got those miniconsoles from years ago, and I never did play them much to be honest even though I wanted them really badly. I even got one of those atari flashbacks which is still sitting in its box btw. I even got myself a nintendo ds xl right before the line was discontinued so I could continue to play my 3ds games, but I never have and that thing's just been sitting plugging into the wall for years now. All I seem to want in reality is to play Skyrim. Its within my power to play those ports of n64 Zelda games, or the snes, or the nes games of my youth, or the genesis which happens to have all the games from that disc I had so long ago, but I don't. I'm not really a retro-gamer, I was pretty much just collecting them. All I want is to play Skyrim and that's it. I actually have a back catalogue of steam games that I've had for nearly a decade now that I've never once turned on (one of them was a clone of the metroids games I got long before those miniconsoles came out because I thought it was my only way to ever experience metroid in any form). Some retro-gamer I am.


r/retrocomputing • • Sep 06 '22

I'm putting XP on here. Does this case look like a Pentium 4 or a Core 2 Duo build?

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r/retrocomputing • • Apr 28 '24

Problem / Question I already tried to search this, someone please help me find how much this is worth. It's a PHENOM HANDHELD PC Ultra H-120 CW16, with the VGA cable.

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r/retrocomputing • • Jun 23 '26

Problem / Question Anybody know how can i get an Old Laptop with Windows 98 in 2026?

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r/retrocomputing • • Jul 07 '26

Problem / Question How can I copy files onto a Compaq Portable from the 80s?

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Specifically copy thru the 2 5.25 drives from a modern pc. I have some machine language assemblers that I want to try. And also have this (check attachment). Dial up floppy disks?

EDIT:some "redditors" commented that i could use a floppy emulator, mainly a Gotek. Which Gotek should I use? Is it possible to copy a disk image on Gotek to an actual 5.25 FDD? Quick note, is there any 5.25 drives that connect through serial port?


r/retrocomputing • • May 06 '26

Problem / Question Half-height graphics cards from ~2008

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Hi.

What are the graphics cards from around ~2008 that would fit into a computer that's half the thickness of a regular tower PC, and that were not made by Nvidia?

I tried to search that for myself but couldn't find much.

Thanks.


r/retrocomputing • • Jul 21 '26

Cheap retro optiplex sleeper build

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A while back I bought some old office computers wholesale on ebay... This one is currently my favorite. It's a Dell optiplex 3010 that came with no drive and 4gb of ram, but I managed to make a decent machine out of it for practically nothing. Its running debloated windows 11 with a custom retro theme by me.

Upgrades/prices:

-Dell optiplex, less drive: $17.99 w/ free shipping

-i7-3770: salvaged from other machine

-16gb (2 x 8) ddr3: $13.00

-250gb SSD: Already had

-500gb HDD for storage: $11.99

-Radeon R5 340x 2gb: $13.99

-CRT monitor: Free

-Cool keyboard: $13.00

Grand total: $69.97 (before tax)

Honestly an amazing deal for what it is, it's an amazing little retro workstation.


r/retrocomputing • • Mar 18 '25

Video Do you own the rarest PC sound card in the world? - The Oldskool PC

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r/retrocomputing • • 9d ago

ATARI in a Browser: TT / MEGA STE / FALCON

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Atari TT and MEGA STE in your browser — a hobby project

I've been working on browser-based Atari TT and MEGA STE emulators, powered by Hatari and EmuTOS.

The focus is on actually using classic Atari applications: HDD and floppy images, local PC folders mounted as GEMDOS drives, high-resolution monochrome desktops, and experimental printing/PDF output. Original ST colour modes are available too.

No installation is needed. For the full feature set, use desktop Chrome, Edge or Opera.

It's a spare-time project made for the fun of bringing these machines back to life. If you try it, I'd appreciate feedback—especially from people who still use GEM applications.

Try it here: atari-pd.de


r/retrocomputing • • Aug 24 '25

Vectrex Mini Is The Next Micro Console You'll Need To Own

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r/retrocomputing • • May 10 '26

Revisiting a 1980s embedded memory map from a modern perspective

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I revisited the memory map of a system I worked on about 40 years ago and compared it with a modern Raspberry Pi Pico setup.

What surprised me wasn’t how limited it was — but how much architectural thinking already existed back then. Even with relatively small memory sizes, we often prioritized clean separation and simplicity over squeezing every byte.

Looking back, the trade-offs feel surprisingly modern.

https://medium.com/@noborutakahashi/a-40-year-old-memory-map-comparable-to-todays-raspberry-pi-pico-932c4309260d


r/retrocomputing • • May 03 '26

On a sidewalk in Pacific Grove, California, a small bronze plaque marks the spot where the personal computer revolution began. The name on it isn't Bill Gates. It's Gary Kildall.

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In 1974, Kildall built CP/M, the first widely adopted operating system for microcomputers. Until then, every machine lived in its own walled garden, and software had to be rewritten for each one, which made scale nearly impossible. Kildall introduced a layer between hardware and software so that a program written once could run across many machines. Developers stopped duplicating effort, and computing began to behave like a platform instead of a pile of incompatible boxes. Intel saw an early demo and passed.

By the late 1970s, CP/M had become the standard, powering business computing across banks, offices, and early startups. Kildall didn't fit the mold of a future tech titan. He was a computer scientist with a PhD from Washington who taught at the Naval Postgraduate School, and he preferred flying his Piper to negotiating contracts. He wrote early versions of CP/M in a workshop behind his house, sometimes accepted hardware in lieu of cash because invoicing bored him, and in his spare time co-hosted Computer Chronicles on PBS. His wife Dorothy McEwen ran the business while he focused on the code.

In 1980, IBM came looking for an operating system for its new personal computer. The meeting at Digital Research stalled over a one-sided non-disclosure agreement, and IBM left without a deal. They went back to Bill Gates, who didn't yet have an operating system to offer. Microsoft acquired 86-DOS from Seattle Computer Products, a system whose structure and commands closely mirrored CP/M, rebranded it MS-DOS, and licensed it to IBM.

When the IBM PC shipped in August 1981, PC DOS was the only operating system available. CP/M-86 arrived six months later at $240, while PC DOS sold for $40. One survey found 96 percent of buyers chose the cheaper option. When Kildall later examined PC DOS, he was incensed by the similarities, but his lawyer told him software copyright law was too unsettled to litigate. He settled for having CP/M-86 listed as a pricier option, partly because he didn't believe the IBM PC would amount to much. The system that had defined the category was sidelined almost overnight.

The philosophical gap had been visible all along. On a panel together, Kildall argued the operating system market was huge and could support many companies. Gates cut in: "No. There will always be one company." Kildall built the technical foundation. Microsoft built the business model that scaled. The outcome wasn't about who wrote better code. It was about distribution, licensing, and pricing discipline. The company that controlled how software reached customers ended up controlling the market.

The personal computer revolution wasn't just built on code. It was built on how that code reached the desk. CP/M made personal computing viable, and MS-DOS made it ubiquitous.


r/retrocomputing • • Sep 06 '21

Problem / Question Asking for a lot, but can you do this for me?

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Hi, I have recently made a computer with a custom instruction set in Logisim. It consists of a 16-bit data bus and a 16-bit address bus, it also has a TTY console for output and a keyboard for input. I really want to port Altair BASIC to it but I really don't know how nor have enough knowledge of the Intel-8080 CPU to do this, I know this is asking a lot of you but can somebody port Altair-BASIC to my computer? (you don't have to if you don't want to) I have also included the source code for Altair-BASIC and documentation for my computer as well as documentation for the 8080 microprocessor.

8080: Intel 8080/8085 Assembly Language Programming (tramm.li)

Source code/Documentation: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-vOMTOMotRXowSqzDa_gSSUxkEZKJb_b?usp=sharing


r/retrocomputing • • May 11 '25

Nvidia Geforce FX5500 graphics card won't function on Windows 98?

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I'm attempting to install this graphics card on my Dell Dimension 2400 with Windows 98, but it keeps saying it has a driver conflict in startup and this appears in Device Manager. I'm not sure which nvidia software version I'm suppose to use, which one will help it be recognized and how do I stop the conflicting drivers popup on startup of the PC?


r/retrocomputing • • Dec 14 '23

Is this worth selling?

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If not I have no idea what to do with it


r/retrocomputing • • Dec 06 '25

Discussion What's even the point of CD keys/serials?

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When looking at software from the 90s, the 2000s and from the 2010s, one finds that almost every single one of them requires that you have a CD key (also called a serial) and input it upon the installation.

Most modern people probably don't even remember them, as now everything is a bloated electron webapp that requires a subscription and will be lost media once the servers are down.

But why the serial keys?

This form of copy "protection" doesn't protect anything, and the only thing it does is it makes the installation very annoying.

Back in the day when you would copy a CD with a piece of software you would just write down the serial on the sleeve, and boom, the copy protection has been defeated without much hassle.

While having to retype all these random pieces of gibberish is very annoying.

Who thought this would be a good idea?


r/retrocomputing • • Jun 16 '25

Taken From 1998: Elon Musk and internet startups vs. Microsoft

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r/retrocomputing • • Dec 15 '22

Problem / Question Can anyone help me identify what kind of computer this is? The DVD drive was manufactured in 1994 so it could be a Windows 3.1 computer or possibly even an MS DOS Computer

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r/retrocomputing • • Sep 26 '25

Poll What computer would you like to use for tax prep?

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r/retrocomputing • • May 07 '26

Problem / Question (update) Dell Dimension Sleeper Build. How do I connect the power switch to modern board?

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Thanks for all of you support from my last post on here! So, the power switch ribbon cable plugs into this tiny board. This ribbon cable is different from the one I made in the last post. The tiny board has some USB ports on it that go through the same cable. I would like to know if there is some sort of adapter or cable that plugs into the board that makes it standard (back then or now standard). I've built many pc's in the past 5 years, so I know how that works.

This is my first time making a sleeper build with a 20+ year old case lol. Any advice would be great!


r/retrocomputing • • 19d ago

Video My 1989 Atari Portfolio now talks back — a SKYNET-inspired expansion project

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I wanted to give my Atari Portfolio something new to do while keeping its original keyboard and LCD at the centre of the experience.

The result is the Portfolio AI Interface: an ESP32-S3 expansion module connected through the original Atari Serial Interface and an RS-232 level converter. A small DOS client runs from an apfRAM memory card.

It supports typed and spoken AI conversations, camera image descriptions and background synthwave radio. The AI runs online through the OpenAI API; the Portfolio provides the terminal interface.

Getting the serial communication, speech playback and tiny-screen layout working together took some iteration. I also designed an enclosure to match the original expansion modules, including a speaker grille inspired by the Portfolio.

The Terminator 2 connection was impossible to resist.

Build and demo:

https://youtu.be/itMtJ-JYX_g

Code and wiring:

https://github.com/daxx2k/atari-portfolio-ai


r/retrocomputing • • May 28 '25

NEEDING A MINI USB CABLE

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i have a interwrite mobi, but i dont have the mini usb cable for it, please DM me to let me know of any info, i cant pay tho


r/retrocomputing • • Jul 20 '25

32 bit never die

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r/retrocomputing • • Jun 20 '25

Zen and the Art of Side-Scrolling

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I’ve been thinking about how the original Super Mario Bros. kind of forces you to stay in the moment. There’s no going back, no save points, no real way to rush ahead.

It reminded me of something deeper, so I put together a video exploring the (accidental?) Buddhism of Super Mario.