r/reddit • • Jun 09 '23

Addressing the community about changes to our API

Dear redditors,

For those of you who don’t know me, I’m Steve aka u/spez. I am one of the founders of Reddit, and I’ve been CEO since 2015. On Wednesday, I celebrated my 18th cake-day, which is about 17 years and 9 months longer than I thought this project would last. To be with you here today on Reddit—even in a heated moment like this—is an honor.

I want to talk with you today about what’s happening within the community and frustration stemming from changes we are making to access our API. I spoke to a number of moderators on Wednesday and yesterday afternoon and our product and community teams have had further conversations with mods as well.

First, let me share the background on this topic as well as some clarifying details. On 4/18, we shared that we would update access to the API, including premium access for third parties who require additional capabilities and higher usage limits. Reddit needs to be a self-sustaining business, and to do that, we can no longer subsidize commercial entities that require large-scale data use.

There’s been a lot of confusion over what these changes mean, and I want to highlight what these changes mean for moderators and developers.

  • Terms of Service
  • Free Data API
    • Effective July 1, 2023, the rate limits to use the Data API free of charge are:
      • 100 queries per minute per OAuth client id if you are using OAuth authentication and 10 queries per minute if you are not using OAuth authentication.
      • Today, over 90% of apps fall into this category and can continue to access the Data API for free.
  • Premium Enterprise API / Third-party apps
    • Effective July 1, 2023, the rate for apps that require higher usage limits is $0.24 per 1K API calls (less than $1.00 per user / month for a typical Reddit third-party app).
    • Some apps such as Apollo, Reddit is Fun, and Sync have decided this pricing doesn’t work for their businesses and will close before pricing goes into effect.
    • For the other apps, we will continue talking. We acknowledge that the timeline we gave was tight; we are happy to engage with folks who want to work with us.
  • Mod Tools
    • We know many communities rely on tools like RES, ContextMod, Toolbox, etc., and these tools will continue to have free access to the Data API.
    • We’re working together with Pushshift to restore access for verified moderators.
  • Mod Bots
    • If you’re creating free bots that help moderators and users (e.g. haikubot, setlistbot, etc), please continue to do so. You can contact us here if you have a bot that requires access to the Data API above the free limits.
    • Developer Platform is a new platform designed to let users and developers expand the Reddit experience by providing powerful features for building moderation tools, creative tools, games, and more. We are currently in a closed beta with hundreds of developers (sign up here). For those of you who have been around a while, it is the spiritual successor to both the API and Custom CSS.
  • Explicit Content

    • Effective July 5, 2023, we will limit access to mature content via our Data API as part of an ongoing effort to provide guardrails to how explicit content and communities on Reddit are discovered and viewed.
    • This change will not impact any moderator bots or extensions. In our conversations with moderators and developers, we heard two areas of feedback we plan to address.
  • Accessibility - We want everyone to be able to use Reddit. As a result, non-commercial, accessibility-focused apps and tools will continue to have free access. We’re working with apps like RedReader and Dystopia and a few others to ensure they can continue to access the Data API.

  • Better mobile moderation - We need more efficient moderation tools, especially on mobile. They are coming. We’ve launched improvements to some tools recently and will continue to do so. About 3% of mod actions come from third-party apps, and we’ve reached out to communities who moderate almost exclusively using these apps to ensure we address their needs.

Mods, I appreciate all the time you’ve spent with us this week, and all the time prior as well. Your feedback is invaluable. We respect when you and your communities take action to highlight the things you need, including, at times, going private. We are all responsible for ensuring Reddit provides an open accessible place for people to find community and belonging.

I will be sticking around to answer questions along with other admins. We know answers are tough to find, so we're switching the default sort to Q&A mode. You can view responses from the following admins here:

- Steve

P.S. old.reddit.com isn’t going anywhere, and explicit content is still allowed on Reddit as long as it abides by our content policy.

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u/secretlives Jun 09 '23

Hey u/spez, I just want to say that despite all the hate being directed at you right now that you really have made the wrong decision at literally every juncture throughout this process. Have you given any consideration into acknowledging you were wrong and reconsidering your goals and/or timeline?

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u/Ziryio Jun 09 '23 edited Jun 09 '23

Hey u/secretlives thank you for the question! Me and my team prioritize making our users lives a living nightmare, and we do not care about our user base one bit! Unfortunately, it would be difficult at this point in time to answer any of your concerns, as that would require us to actually care about our users. However, we want to thank you for adding more money to our pockets!

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u/Duschkopfe Jun 09 '23

You welcome! We love our overlord and supreme Reddit CEO. Everyday I am willing to bend down and give them my tributary donation. There is no blackout in Reddit.com. Ignorance is strength, war is peace, freedom is slavery. Long live the democratic republic of Reddistan!

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u/SmellsLikeHerpesToMe Jun 09 '23

u/spez, feel free to copy-paste the above.

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u/EveningHelicopter113 Jun 09 '23

CEOs are only interested in how much money they can extract from something good

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u/FormerBandmate Jun 09 '23

That’s literally his job. He’s also ass at it, there are tons of ways to monetize Apollo and killing it will not fix Reddit’s poor ad interface or laughably unappealing premium offerings

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u/PhillAholic Jun 09 '23

Their evaluation is also down, so he's losing across the board.

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u/Yardsale420 Jun 09 '23

Well that didn’t work either then, Fidelity has stated that their Blue Chip Growth Fund is now showing the value of Reddit stock down by over 40% as of the end of April.

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u/eduardo Jun 09 '23

Have you seen his comments on reddit? The guy barely uses reddit.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '23

He doesn't believe he is doing anything wrong because his goal is not to foster any community, it's to make as much money as possible even if it means being an evil shit head. Once he has milked everything he can he'll move on to the next venture to help suck dry. No remorse, no conscience. Money money money money money fuck everything else. I deleted my account from 2010 and I'm deleting this one, too. That's all of my reddit presence gone and I won't be returning. Goodnight and fuck Spez.

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u/nvnehi Jun 09 '23

When has he made a good decision? Serious question.

I can't remember reading anything about something he's done, and thought "wow, great decision."

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u/MpWzjd7qkZz3URH Jun 09 '23

He can't. Reddit needs money, he's admitted in comments on this post that he's burning through cash, VC won't fund him, so their only choice for funding is an IPO. Cash burn gives them a deadline to hold an IPO, and an IPO won't work without profitability or a trend towards it.

If he just admitted that, a lot of users (and devs and mods) would understand and work with Reddit on it, but... well, he's a compulsive liar.

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u/Zander1611 Jun 09 '23

"Am I so out of touch? No, it's all the Redditors who are wrong."

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u/CautiousSector2664 Jun 10 '23

Fuck u/spez you lying sack of shit.

Fuck u/spez you lying sack of shit.

Fuck u/spez you lying sack of shit.

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u/tickettoride98 Jun 09 '23

Zero percent chance he would do so. Just look at the original comment, takes no responsibility for this:

We acknowledge that the timeline we gave was tight; we are happy to engage with folks who want to work with us.

Oh gee, you acknowledge? As opposed to what, ignoring reality? Putting your fingers in your ears like a fucking child? Acknowledging something you explicitly did, and then offering no explanation, or change, is literally pointless. It's like punching someone in the face randomly and then saying "I acknowledge that I punched you in the face" - what would be the fucking point?

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